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Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by 360modena2003, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. 360modena2003

    360modena2003 Formula 3

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    Hello,

    I am thinking of getting a wooden buck made for an 1930's Alfa and wanted to know if anyone here has experience in getting a 1:1 wooden bucks made to share their experience.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Vincent Vangool

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  3. 360modena2003

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    Great, thank you to both of you.
     
  4. tongascrew

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    Want to catch up on the future of restoration,rebuilds recreations etc. Take a gander thru this thread. Don't miss this one. I don't understand how they do this but it's a brave new world out there. tongascrew
     
  5. 360modena2003

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    Sorry, didn't understand your comment Tongascrew -
     
  6. tongascrew

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    The old wood buck etc is now being replace by computer driven 3D digital imaging which if done correctly with the necessary equipment will create an exact replica"copy" with the exact original dimensions. How the metallurgy or composite material is recreated is also way beyond me. I know the earth is round but that's about it. tongascrew
     
  7. Vincent Vangool

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    I think Tonga is speaking of the thread I posted above.

    Tonga.

    I think this technology is just used for making Bucks at this point. More to get the exact dimensions etc.

    As you stated, It is useful as now damage to a car that has unique features Vin to Vin, such as a GTO, can be scanned and effectively keep the same nuances throughout repairs done through time as the car goes on and on and on.

    I don't believe the tech is out there yet to just print a frame/body but it seems as if it will be coming some day.

    Scary to think of. Some guy just scans your GTO with his cell phone or whatnot and then just goes home and hits print.

    Will that ever happen? Who knows?
     
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    Koenigsegg is 3d printing the internal parts for the turbocharger on the One:1...

    Frames/bodies...any second now.
     
  9. tongascrew

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    When you consider that today you can get on the internet the directions to build a composite material fully operational and screening undetectable hand gun why not some day a perfect copy of a 250 GTO and undectable at scrutinizing. Trust me I will be warning my grandchildren! tongascrew
     
  10. 360modena2003

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    Will be exactly the same as a fake diamond or a faked painting - even if it is the same "molecule by molecule", it will not be the original.
     
  11. Smiles

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    Are you looking or a buck just for the beauty of the buck itself, like a sculpture?

    Or would you actually produce panels from its fit?

    I think the answer may depend on your intended use.

    Matt
     
  12. 360modena2003

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    I want to produce panels off the buck - do you know any panel "beaters", alu fabricator shops?

    Thanks,

    Patrick
     
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    Yes, the art is not lost. Where are you?
     
  14. 360modena2003

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    I am located in Europe, but currently living in the middle east. I would not have a problem in send the buck if I find a good fabricator at a reasonable price.
     
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    Best bet is to find an experienced fabricator with the expertise and knowledge to build a buck as well as doing the metal shaping required. Realize that whatever you build, it most likely won't be allowed into historically significant events or on a concours d'elegance field.

    This is the buck for a (interpretive recreation?) 1938 Alfa Romeo S11 Corto Spyder Speciale. Beautiful car but very limited places to showcase since it was built. I think David showed it at Quail and that was it. Ultimately it is something beautiful to drive and to have in ones garage to lovingly stare at -- I wish it was in mine to be honest.

    Also if you are looking for a 2.9/2.3 type of clone, there are a lot of well built and fairly accurate recreations being made in Argentina if you do your research. Just check with the laws in your country in regard to registering before purchasing.
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  17. 360modena2003

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    Yes, thank you - I have considered that.

    I am not looking to build an "exact" copy, but just have a very close body on an existing rolling chassis from the same era (1930-1940), that can be driven and enjoyed.

    For registrations purposes, it will simply be a "re-bodied" 1934 car.




     
  19. tongascrew

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    I just don't want it fooling anyone, particularly the experts. It's happened already with that replica 250 GTO that fooled everyone at Historics for several years. tongascrew
     
  20. tongascrew

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    I was under the impression that at every significant event or concourse there were plenty of cars being judged with some form of recreated body parts or even totally non original body work. A "buck" was used in creating many if not most of these. tongascrew
     
  21. tongascrew

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    I have always been under the impression that there are many cars being judged with reproduced body parts and even entirely new body work.In most cases some form "buck" was used to create these. tongascrew
     
  22. Smiles

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    I've taken a couple of classes in sheetmetal fabrication taught by Ron Covell in both steel and aluminum. He's an excellent instructor.

    Here are his DVDs:
    Buy DVDs

    There is one in particular on building a body buck.

    Honestly, building a body buck is the easiest part of building a whole car body.

    Matt
     
  23. 360modena2003

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    Yes, the buck is not the issue it seems, but yes finding someone to fabricate the panels. Any suggestions?
     
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    Both, and they teach also very knowledgeable
     

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