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  1. tongascrew

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    If you can, get a copy of Car and Driver of Dec. 1989. The story of this guy could be the inspiration for a "can't put it down" novel or a RRR rated film. It has sex, divorse. embezlementing hugh $$$, forgery,screw your best buddy to the wall,suicide, attempted murder, you name it in such places as Paris and Monte Carlo and all around the building and selling fake 250GTOs to the "more money than brains" types in other exotic locations. This guy really out did the Dubbini brothers. It's hard to make jup somethin better than this. tongascrew
     
  2. Vincent Vangool

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    I've always wanted to know more about Favre.
     
  3. tx246

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    I would love to hear more about the real story and what we have come to know.

    Are the quality of his replicas as good as talked about? If so, did he do them himself, or have them done?
     
  4. tongascrew

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    So would I. I am hoping that by posting this someone will come up with more.If anyone would like a copy of the C&D article e-mail me at tongascrew@ aol.com with your address and I will send it out to you. tongascrew
     
  5. JeremyJon

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    http://autosmobilis.com/controfr.htm



    from an Ed Niles article

    http://www.fca-sw.org/article.aspx?article_id=286

     
  6. tx246

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    Bombing a light house?
     
  8. kvisser

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    Who among us hasn't contemplated doing that?
     
  9. WilyB

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    A Fchat member posted the complete story here: http://www.gatsbyonline.com/main.aspx?page=text&id=621&cat=auto

    There are five chapters, in French, explaining in details William Favre's story.

    Some big names are involved, truly fascinating. At one point they had the idea to make believe their "GTO" were manufactured in Saudi Arabia and took pictures of mechanics wearing Arabian headgear.
     
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  11. WilyB

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    #11 WilyB, Aug 26, 2012
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    It is my understanding that the Favre's GTO were made by Alain Garnier in St Paul de Vence (Provence) and the engines were modified to GTO specs by P3 Automobiles in Cannes.

    Alain Garnier was a TV repairman who could not afford 80,000 Francs for a real GTO and decided to manufacture one for himself from a GTE back in '74.

    See "AUTO PASSION n°3, January 1987".
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  12. nerofer

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    #12 nerofer, Jun 13, 2013
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    Bump...just for those interested in the story, I found amusing to post the original add for the Favre GTO, as published in the french edition of Autocourse 1984 (= end 1984).
    Very open and naïve, before trouble began...

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  13. Bryanp

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    Isn't Favre the guy who comitted suicide by shooting himself in the head . . . twice?
     
  14. NürScud

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    Twice?? WTF..!!
     
  15. kare

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    Very typical for shotgun. Takes skill and determination to get it done.
     
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    by rights his name should be spelled William Faux....;)
     
  18. nerofer

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    Well, I see the play on words, but actually it is debatable, as he never pretended that the cars were anything other than recreations. Except in the title of the add, which is a bit provocative, but he always described the cars as "re-creations of a 250 GTO on a 250 chassis". I always thought of him as having been a bit naïve...and he paid a heavy price for this.

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  19. 246tasman

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    Skill acquired through much practice...
     
  20. 4re308

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    I actually have a complete press kit on the Favre GTOs along with his business card and some color photos of the cars.
     
  21. tx246

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    Please post details, it would be interesting to see how he marketed this
     
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  23. giade

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    Are there any links for Documentation, Information, Pictures, Production figures, etcetera, of his 250 GTOs onLine Anywhere at this point? I am wondering what to look for in order to distinguish a 'Genuine' WFavre GTO. Devotamente, gF NM/FL USA
     
  24. miurasv

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    #24 miurasv, Apr 29, 2017
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    A genuine fake!!! :)

    This one is said to be made by Favre: 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO Recreation
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  25. Marcel Massini

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    3343 GT is yet another poor 250 GTE 2+2 that sadly was destroyed to make a "GTO".

    Originally painted Azzurro 16240 MM with Beige VM 3218 interior, while it was still a proper GTE. Sold new thru Renato Nocentini's Garage La Rotonda in Prato near Florence, Italy.

    And NO, this poor "GTO" was NOT built by Favre. It was made by Alain Garnier in France.

    Marcel Massini
     

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