What should Ferrari's penalty be?

Uh, I'm fighting two battles at the same time.

Actually that quote is a very good indication that this rule doesn't exist and that Benoit got it wrong. I also have to admit, that not finding it in the FIA rules is troubling and I found pretty much every other nit picking rule I could think of.

I'm still stunned that 40 pages would cover all there is and I could swear the commentators made remarks about the Wet Race regulation etc. But maybe this is a wild goose chase.

 

I would also think that there is more than 40 pages for the regulations, it seems like such a little amount for the complexity of F1. I would bet the teams get a much more in-depth rule book than the one posted. But we could be wrong on that one. Thanks for the great discussion.

 

Thanks likewise and to Dubai Vol. I never thought of trying to read the regulations myself, but if this is all there is, I might as well. Heck these 40 pages is less than the recent FIA verdict.

TV stations around the world hire ex F1 drivers/mechanics to discuss rules and regulations. But if reading only 40 pages make you an expert, I should send in my resumee to Speed TV. On second thought, maybe not.

I find it even more stunning that another 40 pages cover all the technical regulations. I would have expected several binders full of drawings and regulations for every possible bit of a car and its engine. The manual I get with my VCR has more pages than that.

 

You didn't respond to my earlier question about Ferrari having to change from intermediate tyres - if there is no 'wet race' rule what permitted the stewards to require them to do that?

 

Correction: He is actually rated as #140. Just ahead of Heidfeld.

 

+1
The three musceteers - priceless! LOL
I wonder who would take the image of D'Artagnan.

 

They sent an email....

Seems there is a bit of controversy over that.

 

That doesn't answer the question. If the stewards can require the teams (by sending them an email or informing them in some other way) to run on a certain type of tyre there must be an explicit rule that says they have the power to do that.

 

The only thing this tells me is that you are an avid believer of circular logic.
Sorry, but after all the mumbo jumbo aristocratic airs about evidence and such,
it's comical.

 

The SPEED tv crew said something about a general rule that allows the stewards to make such rules on the fly if it is for safety reasons. I haven't looked to see if they are correct. Maybe someone else here knows of this?

 

Practically everytime I had an interview printed, I was misquoted, facts were taken out of context,
etc, etc. The truth is often massaged.

The article is vague - as I recall he didn't write that he wasn't paid
he wrote 'there is not a shred of evidence'. As long as the author doesn't know about
any evidence he is telling the truth. The use of 'standing up in a proper court'
is also throwing up red flags.

I'm inclined to think actual money wasn't involved, just bks I don't see money as the motive,
but then, Stepney's actions don't seem exactly rational.

 

I would agree with what you said. And as stated before I believe Stepney belongs in jail and I think McLaren got off the hook way to easy.

But: It irks me when people make statements on here, that Stepney actually got a million for the data. Not that I can't imagine that scenario, but that has not been prooven so far. What he did is bad enough, we don't need to invent charges. That's why I'm hammering on this. If you make a statement that he got a million for this, show me where that was said.

On a somewhat related note: I have failed to back up my claim about the wet race rules (although I'm still looking for it, O.J. is helping me) so I have admitted that this claim was probably wrong.

 

So I was right, there were multiple ways that a Ferrari driver could win. Hummmm, you say no DNF's for McLaren? It's happened every race since your string of nonsensical posts. So you go look up the numbers. Another Mr. Knowi-t-all bites the dust.

I would outline it for Todt as I did for you. Look at what happened over the last two races, a real shot at the title. Hummm imagine that.

"Everyone knows everything on FChat" - Except that they don't. Most follow the biggest probabilities and bet on them. More often they're right just by chance but when they're wrong, they pack up and leave the thread on their search for another thread they can "pick a winner" on.

Opinions are one thing but re-stating what others have already said is bogus. Come up with an original thought and use it before claiming anything, you may not be right all the time but at least you will be spouting your own ideas.

Nice chatting with you. I noticed after Fugi you packed up, as coincidence would have it that was the the start of the McLaren DNF problem. Appropriate timing.

 

Update: The 40 pages (20 if you leave off the French translation) are indeed NOT comprehensive. I just received a 90+ page document from a team member about the technical regulations.

 

Ummm...D'Artagnan was not one of the three musketeers. They were, IIRC, Athos, Porthos and Aramis or something like that

 

The three mouseketeers were Brittney, Timberlake...ah never mind.

 

Well, that is the whole idea. We know who the three musketeers are (in the book and in here), that's why I was wondering who would step up to d'Artagnan's name.

 

I am starting to feel like Edmund Dantes...