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Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by james.colangelo, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. james.colangelo

    james.colangelo Karting

    Jan 28, 2008
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    As I'm digging into my 400i, I'm finding more and more mysteries. Such as.. what in the world used to be bolted here?

    I'm guessing the original Marelli ignition module went here (mine has been changed to an MSD system) but I just don't know. There isn't mention of it in my owners manual.

    By the way, I have removed the wiper motor and I am sending it off for repair today, I'll be updating that thread today.

    Jim
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  2. raemin

    raemin Formula Junior

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    That's where the dinoplex goes...

    As mentioned earlier on the 412 the electronic ignition is located in another location, so you may use 412 hood trim in order to hide the hole. You may also relocate your modern ignition where it should be, i.e under the hood, where it will be away from water and slightly more protected from the infernal heat of the engine bay.
     
  3. raemin

    raemin Formula Junior

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    By the way could you send us a photo of the wires that are on the lower side of the picture? I just can't think about any electric accessory here.
     
  4. james.colangelo

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    I was in fact thinking of relocating it. For now, the MSD module is located on the fender well. It's fine there I guess but I would rather it somewhere else. The problem is, I don't think the harness will reach, which means me extending all of the wires.. not sure I want to do that as it creates a failure point for the harness. I wonder though.. if there is an extension available from MSD. I bet there is... hmm..

    The wires that you see there - I'm not sure what they are for frankly - I'll take a closer look and trace them.
     
  5. raemin

    raemin Formula Junior

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    Normally on the front fender you've got the AC dryer. If the MSD is located there, then they have probably moved the dryer to another place?
     
  6. james.colangelo

    james.colangelo Karting

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    No, the AC hasn't been relocated - it's on the passenger side inner fenderwell just in front of the air duct.
     
  7. Part Time

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    Ok.....here we go....

    I fabricated a flat aluminum plate to fit the MSD and the original Mag-Mar mounting holes.
    I decided not to hide it, it's an upgrade to ancient Italian electronics.
    I did manage to go online and find the other half of the OEM connector, so no wires cut or spliced at all.
    The old unit did work...so if I want I can put it back on in 20-30 minutes.

    Gary

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  8. james.colangelo

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    Gary!!

    My new best friend. First of all it's really good to see that someone else has this upgrade - I was beginning to think I was the only one. Now I also know exactly what to do with my unit. This is great.

    I emailed MSD (Holley) today to see if they have proper extensions to the cabling but yes as I sort this out I will share with everyone.

    Thank you!!

    Jim
     
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  9. raemin

    raemin Formula Junior

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    I am afraid MSD is not going to sell you a plug and play extension compatible with the Ferrari harness. I also suspect that the stock harness was "butchered". Here is what you need in order to rebuild the "stock" harness, and properly connect it like Gary did:

    The OEM fastin-faston connector, a.k.a "6 Way Electrical Wiring Multi-Connector with 6.3mm Terminals" is approx £1.85 (male/female pair) on eBay, add to this 0.27€/m for the coloured cables (I am sourcing these locally, sorry for the quote in euro), heat shrink tubing £0.99 (per colour), period correct black (or green) cable sleeves ($3 per meter?). If you do not have a "Rachet Crimping Tool", add £29 to your shopping list (there are some $3 chinese alternative that can be used with pliers).

    With all the above, you can extend the Ferrari harness, put back the OEM Fastin-Faston connector. Once you are there, on the MSD side cut the superseal(?) connector and replace it with a Fastin-Faston one.
     
  10. Jasonberkeley

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    A few other threads- lots of historical posts on here. Youre not alone! Just search 'MSD' in this section!

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/dinoplex-msd.175693/
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/dinoplex-msd.123634/
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/msd-ignition.561107/
     
  11. james.colangelo

    james.colangelo Karting

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    Fantastic. Thanks to you both. I’ll keep you all updated with my changes / progress on this. I need to relocate that MSD to the proper location.
     
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