Trump's Trade Center vision

As an aside - does Trump or has Trump, own(ed) a Ferrari? He could probably afford to buy the Maranello factory.

 

My attorney left the Empire State building after 9/11, he was'nt the only one........
I certainly would not want to work there.....

 

I saw Mr. Trump discussing the WTC rebuild in a TV interview the other day. Though I don't agree with his idea of closely replicating the twin towers, I do agee with him heartily about the deficiencies of the new design. For those that criticize Mr. Trump for his large ego, I can confirm from personal experience that the egos of the likes of the intellectual elitists and architectural academicians who dominated the selection process for the new design and its architect are at least the equivalent of his.

I have always thought that the twin towers were ugly and distinguished by nothing but placement and overwhelming size. Much more attractive new buildings, equal in size, economic return, and visual impact/symbolic relationship to the old towers would not be a difficult commission for a competent and realistic design team. A different aesthetic approach to a redesign of the twin towers is all that is needed -- perhaps something in a very, very clean classical style, with interesting yet conservative massing and surface detail, and a much more developed relationship to the surrounding stuctures and grounds.

We need to get over sentimental notions about the WTC site and get on with life. Economic considerations are going to dominate in the end, but this doesn't have to dim our memories of what happened there. Not commercially redeveloping the site or building a weak design like the current front runner WILL signal diminished national resolve. And, the currently favored design would be just as much of a "target" as an improved and better looking version of the old towers.

I admire Mr.Trump for speaking out on this. We all know he wants to make piles more money, but he's also a welcome voice for a lot of people who don't like the idea of a multibillion dollar Ivy-League/Euroslick architectural-school fantasy jammed down their throats (or up the other end).

 

IMO the Donald's plan is better than that goofy half-skeleton they've planned for the site. I doubt it would pencil out in the short term though. It is important to remember that the first WTC was basically a socialist project rammed through by Rockefeller. It took a decade and a half before the property became profitable. Still, if he want's to build it, I say go for it and give those pansy-ass art house effetes AND the terrorists a big F-U! A park would just accumulate homeless bums and piles of dogsh!t.

Taller buildings, faster planes, bigger aircraft carriers, faster cars, bigger guns...it's all a guy thing anyhow

 

NY-ers would occupy the snot out of it, just out of principle.

I say, build FOUR damn towers on the site, and build 'em taller than the origionals.

This one I really like:
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Or FIVE even...

 

This is definitely a topic that everyone seems to have their own opinion about. I strongly believe we must rebuild, to not rebuild would be like keeping a black eye from a bully forever. The new construction was never planned to be on the same footprint as the old buildings, just on the same site, a memorial was always planned to be on the old WTC spot.

As for being a terrorist target, all of NYC is a terrorist target. They could have done way more damage crashing those planes through a dozen buildings in mid town and setting half the city on fire so the point is we can't live scared. We need to rebuild and just make sure we don't get caught with our pants down again (4 planes hijacked on the same day? THAT is want can't happen again).

Design wise I have always loved the WTC, I used to have a view from my old house. But I believe in forward progress, architecture to me should always reflect the time in which is was created, so going back to the 1970s would be doing a bad job. That said I do agree the Freedom Tower is a incohesive mish-mash of a design and is perhaps trying to be too modern.

 

Haha, anyone else think middle finger?

 

thousands are killed on the highways every year....we don't close the roads.

Who says you have to lease them. I bet condo's would do better on most upper floors.

The cause of collapse was do to the fire-proofing material being blown off the steel rebar and joist. Hence, the steel heating up and imploding. Structural engineers have already planned for like kind scenerios and have designed accordingly. Of course, the marketing people have the work cut out.