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Discussion in '360/430' started by Husker, Oct 19, 2020.

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  2. BlacktopRacing

    BlacktopRacing Formula Junior

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    Well, not only does it have "front air conditioning", it has it listed twice. Must be something wrong!
     
  3. Husker

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    They have a listing for a gated yellow one, 18K more miles, $30K more.

    There is a story here that isn’t being told. Salvage car is my guess, even though they aren’t claiming such.
     
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  4. armedferret

    armedferret Karting

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    It's admittedly been a good long while since i looked into it; is it still unbelievably easy to get a clear title for a previously salvage vehicle in Florida? I know it used to be (they didnt put rebuild on the title anywhere so it was a HUGE market for wrecked cars back in the 90s i know).

    Just spitballin. I have zero dog in any of this, it could just be erroneously priced IDK. (Though i doubt it)
     
  5. ScudMarks

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    I can clear it up. As it is my own personal car. I own 415 Motorsports, and have sold many cars to FChat members and for them. I am a very honest and transparent guy. The price is accurate. It is what I paid for the car years ago when comps were selling at $125k. The car has a clean Carfax and a clean Title, no salvage. Some could argue that it should have been as it was in an accident 2-3 years before I purchased it. The reason the price is low is because the top doesn’t work. We put 20 hours into figuring out what was wrong, and got to the bottom of it, the top frame itself broke a weld and could not be fixed. Between eBay and Ferrparts guys are wanting $15k for convertible top frames, so I never fixed it. I drove the car for 3 years, put 5k miles on it, and spent close to $10k on a new clutch, brake master cylinder, booster, annual services, etc to keep the car running gloriously. It is the right car for someone that wants the experience of a fast, gated Fcar without fear of value based on miles. I thought I would NEVER sell it, but unfortunately an extremely expensive medical treatment for my wife forces the sell of my baby.

    for anyone interested, I am an open book, and have plenty of references that can confirm, including a Scuderia sale just last week.
     
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  7. Husker

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    Goodness I am sorry to hear about your wife’s health. Prayers for healing. Even if a fellow had to spend $15K on a new top, it’s still a bargain. GLWS and with your wife’s treatment.
     
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  8. mchas

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    Why doesn’t the listing say that the top doesn’t work? That’s kind of an important detail. Still a great price and a beautiful car though!
     
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  9. EastMemphis

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  10. Daryl Zernick

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    So sorry to hear about your wife and hope she recovers quickly!!
     
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  12. ScudMarks

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    I was watching this thread, I would love to put a hard top on it for December-March.
     
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  13. ScudMarks

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    Thank you guys. We are hoping for success as well.

    As for the car, I live in Northern CA so no need to ever have the top up, our driving season is so long and winters aren’t even that cold. I never liked the look of any soft top and was thrilled when the 458 fixed that.

    Most of all, I have enjoyed having a gated 360 barchetta guilt free. I never once looked at my odometer, I never wondered what the value was going to be, just stick the key and hear the motor howl through the Tubi. I have been on over 50 drives in it between FOG, my own driving group, and other rallies. Constantly told it’s the best sounding car out there.
     
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  14. Danedingerson

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    IM just noticed how high these 360 have gone in recent years. The asking prices are more than I paid last year for my 430 in some cases.
     
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  15. vrsurgeon

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    Medical needs are the one reason I would sell mine in a heartbeat. When I was driving home from the ER when my wife was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2015.. I had vowed the car would be sold by the end of the week. For us, the outcome was wonderful on both sides.

    Sending the best, if there is any way I can help PM me..
     
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  16. artsd

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    Not sure if the CarGurus ad was edited since originally posted but it does say "Price reflects top being non-op" as of right now.
    Seems like a killer deal for someone who can source the parts or doesn't care if it is an open top only car.
     
  17. efg2014

    efg2014 Formula Junior

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    Wishing you wife the best. I'm not sure why people think the price is low, I'd say about right. The cost of fixing the rag top and other issues which can arise in a 19 year old car would be something to take into consideration. Being a gated example is also a compelling reason to look at this car. I would concur with the owner that you really don't need a top in the SF Bay area. My 190SL rarely has its top up.
     
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  18. RedNeck

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    The price is definitely low, but not "holy ****, I need to buy this right now and resell it for a mad profit!" low. The gated spiders tend to bring in a bit less than the coupes do, I'm assuming due to the top issues. Looks like a great deal on a decently low mileage driver's car. Wish @ScudMarks was able to keep and enjoy it on all accounts, but someone could get a good, gated Ferrari at a good deal.
     
  19. ScudMarks

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    Update: The car is sold. Somewhere in the middle of the 100+ phone calls I received (each one entailed a 20 minute *full disclosure* story) I found 5 guys that were perfect to either take the car as-is and enjoy the crap out of the 1 of 1 360 Barchetta ;) or was a DIY mechanic that saw the value in the car as-is with a chance of making the fix to the top over time as parts become available. Happy to report I am satisfied with the sale, and happier than ever that the treatment my wife is getting is showing positive results through the first two weeks, which hasn't happened thus far in 18 months despite some great talent at Stanford and UCSF.

    If any of you ever come into the horrific situation of knowing anyone that is experiencing symptoms or gets diagnosed with CRPS, please reach out and I would be more than happy to share the resources we have come up with.

    Thank you Fchatters, although out of a Ferrari at the moment, hopefully it won't be long, I am still here to find, sell, and advise on Fcars as always, don't hesitate to reach out.

    -Matt
    415 Motorsports
     
  20. Daryl Zernick

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    Great to hear about your wife's progress!!!!!
     
  21. ScudMarks

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  22. Husker

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    Hope the sale translates into a full, healthy life for you and your wife. Cars are cars.
     
  23. Stev-o

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    Best to you 415...
     

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