"THE" retro GM/FORD/CHRYSLER muscle car poll.............

You're kidding, right? lol

Or have you forgotten the G8 sedan already, along with Pontiac's proposed G8 ST?

BTW, I'd take the Camaro.
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You forgot the poll option for "None of the above."

If offered the car for free, I'll take the one with the highest quick turnaround resale value.

 

I thought this was an interesting comparison. The Mustang apparently has more neutral handling than the M3.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/index.html

 

Challenger.

 

I owned an '06 Mustang GT and was really disappointed by it. Still, I think of the three the Mustang would be it; especially now that it has more power (425 vs 300 in mine), a 6-speed, and the brembo brake kit. (my issue with the car was brakes/handling)

 

When/if GM actually makes the supercharged Z28 it will be game over for the others unless it is seriously overpriced. But I'm guessing $47k base.

I like the GT500 well enough, but a 550 hp Camaro would be it for me. What would Ford do to retaliate, 600 hp? And it still wouldn't have decent rear suspension.

Friend has a Challenger. Pointless IMO.

 

+1

 

Pretty much...

There's one at work and I lust after it everytime I walk by.

http://www.pontiac.com/g8/
http://www.pontiacg8.com/

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/13/australian-pontiac-g8-given-extended-run/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_G8

 

The new 5.0 sounds mean, I like everything about it, other than the back end.

I like everything about the Challenger, and I don't like the heavy looking Camaro.

 

When the retro cars were first announced it was Challenger...Camaro...Mustang...my like order hasn't changed...Challenger for me...I don't know how easily I would be able to give it back though

 

For me it was a tossup between the challenger, and the mustang. And honestly I'm saying challenger. It has the best sounding motor of the three IMO. And I personally think it is the prettiest of the 3. I would get it, then try and replace the steering wheel with a viper unit(I'm sorry but a 4 spoke dodge caliber steering wheel in that car is plain wrong.) Make the interior a little nicer, then enjoy it as a cruiser. It is the most comfortable cruiser of the three. The mustang is the better overall value and drivers car, but I can't get a mustang as a drivers car because for the same money I can have a 370z, which and I will take no arguement on this, is a significantly better driving machine than any of these three, the genesis 3.8, the rx-8 or anything in its class. The camaro is a bit overdone, they went a bit too far with the styling IMO, it had a big wow factor from me when I first saw it, but the more I look at it, the less appealing it gets, not to mention it is hopelessly impractical, no joke outward visibility for a short guy like me is just terrible.

 

GT. Maybe the Challenger if it was smaller.

btw, G8's cool - maybe GM should've made it the Impala or Malibu SS when they put Pontiac on the trailer ... "El Camino" version's kinda cool, too ...

 

See my issue with the mustang is a double edged sword. The fact that now they are really attempting to make a proper drivers car, rather than a lazy old muscle car is sweet. They are innovating, which I appreciate, but the way I would spec out my 5.0 would be 4k more than a sport pack 370z specced out my way, and even worse, it would only be 3k below the nismo z, which with the upgraded pads, and dealer requested 5.1 fluids is absolutely epic fun on mountatins and the track.

I don't look at the challenger as a drivers car, because I have driven all three, and this out of all cars is the most comfortable cruiser this side of jaguars, it is lazy and incredibly comfortable, oddly enough I would say the srt8 package is a stupid idea, I would go with a r/t package. the 5.7 351ci hemi is good enough in my book, and like I said, I think they sound the best outta the three. The camaro styling is too busy, and I can't see out of it too well, so that pretty much takes that out of the picture, if I can't drive it properly, then its no good for me. So ya in my book the srt-8 is a nono. Gotta be a r/t classic with a couple of options. Ya it's gonna be the slowest of the three but it looks really nice, and I see what you mean by the little high on the sides, but look at it this way the r/t strpies on the side make it look just right. Whereas with bare paint, it's a bit too tall. I still say challenger r/t with 3000 dollars worth of custom interior modifications are in order. Then we are good to go.

That being said I am looking forward to the upcoming boss 302 package. It looks thoroughly interesting.

If I have one gripe about american cars in general, and this includes corvettes, it would be seats, they were clearly meant for people with a wider girth. even the zr1 suffered this from my perspective, it simply wasn't tight enough. A car that corner with that kind of violence needs tighter seats. The boss 302 package seems to be on right path in this sense. Let's see when it comes out.
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You list the Camaro as an RS, I assume you mean SS.

Also the price points are tuff since you have the SS and GT, which are close and the more expensive SRT-8, which in that price point should be an R/T.

I am a Camaro guy, I own a modded older one. But if I was buying now I would get the GT. Just has the best overall package and handing. The new Camaro has an awesome powertrain, but you feel like you sitting in a hole and I’m 6-1. The Challenger looks great. BUT, is too big for what it is, to expensive and slow compared to the others, and has the worst interior by far.

 

Challenger for the win.

Mustang a very close second.

I cant get past the Camaros tank like exterior.

 

Decent enough rear suspension to smoke the M3 around Laguna Seca in Boss 302 guise.

 

You might not take any argument on it, but the Mustang will destroy the Z on any road course other than a parking lot autoX. The new Boss(especially in Laguna Seca form) is a fantastic driver's car. My recommendation is for 370Z owners to pick on Miatas as they've got nothing for the Ford.

 

I said drivers car, not lap time machine, as far as sit in a car press buttons and more or less sit around while the car drops a couple of lap records the only car that does that is the gtr. you sort of point it in the general direction it just goes there. I'm talking the sense of involvement, and the driving experience. that stang should have been offered with a decent irs system, ford can make it, and some people like me would pay extra for that. the live axle ruins it a bit, and yes I have driven the car. As good as the 5.0 is, the 370z offers a better experience. And it gets really old when I'm flying around in my seat (all three of them are guilty for that, but a nothing a good set of sparcos can't solve so not a big deal).

Like I said in my previous post I am looking forward to the boss 302. Haven't seen it yet. So factor that in, I haven't i repeat I have not driven a boss 302. The laguna seca edition personally looks hideous. The normal variant on the other hand with that odd orange paintjob looks quite epic.

 

You didn't have a vote for "None of the above"....

If I had to pick it would probably be the Mustang, since it is the smallest and lightest package. The Camaro and the Challenger are just rebodied mid-size sedans and have nothing in common with real "pony" cars. The original Mustang, Camaro and Baracuda were all based on the smaller "compact" platforms of the Falcon, the Nova and the Dart. The reason was these were smaller, lighter and made for a more sporty car. Up until this generation the Camaro was true to that model, a lighter more sporting platform.

I see nothing in the Camaro or the Challenger other than a "sporty" looking body on a heavy platform with poor weight distribution. Not interested at all, and I predict that the sales for these two will tank in a couple of years when the novelty wears off. JMHO