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Scaglietti Spyders

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  1. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

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    Just like to confirm that the first Scaglietti Spyder was Ferrari 166MM 0050M (ex - 0308M)
    and the last Ferrari 250 TRI/61 0794TR
    Spyder is with reference to "race car"
     
  2. stevewak

    stevewak Karting

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  3. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    We have been thru this so many times........
    Again and again and again: Spider is Italian, Spyder is English.
    Forget any "lists" on any websites.........
    Besides all that, what please , is "Faraina" ??

    Marcel Massini
     
  4. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

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    Faraina is a spelling mistake, or something probably similar to a Farina.
     
  5. kare

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    Scaglietti, by his own words, was involved with the three sc. autodromo-spiders, one of which was and early 735S prototype crshed by Ascari, the second 166MM/53 0264M and the third 166MM/53 0272M (spring of 1953). He then seems to have rebodied the 735S crashed by Ascari (late 1953). In spring of 1954 he rebodied both 0030MT and 0262M and also made yet another rebody on the 735S and 0050M(ex-0308M)... so no, it was not the first but among his early works.
     
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  6. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

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    The initial body style of 0264M looks quite different to later Scaglietti bodies. Was the rebody to a Touring style done by Touring.
     
  7. Ed Niles

    Ed Niles Formula 3
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    Re: 0272M..When I had it, I had both Tom Meade and PeteColtrin ask at Autodromo, a bus body manufacturer, and all denied ever having built the body for this or its sister. This all started with Hans Tanner's early book, and has been repeated endlessly. I don't mind saying that Hans was a B.S.er. (I knew him pretty well.)

    My belief is that this body was sketched out at the factory and probably built by moonlighters, maybe from Scaglietti, but who knows? I just wish that everyone would stop calling it "Autodromo."

    Only my 2 cents. Cheers!
     
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  8. kare

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    You are absolutely correct, Ed. Calling it "sc. autodromo-spider" is based on lazyness on my part, as it is the easieast way of describing the design. There is also photographic evidence of 0272M (I think) being built, and it happened clearly inside Ferrari factory walls. I think it is fascinating that Scaglietti said he was involved in building these cars, "which were not among the prettiest" (his words).
     
  9. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

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    0050M (166MM)- rebodied by Scaglietti in 1953 at request of Dino

    0428M (735S) - rebodied by Scaglietti and finished in May 54

    0262M (166MM) rebodied in '54 by Scaglietti

    0030MT (275S) rebodied by Scaglietti in '54/55
     
  10. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    I always thought Ferrari only made the engines in their factory? Bodywork and chassis always outsourced?
     
  11. ybsone

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    0302TF (500 Mondial) 1953, before December and 12 Hours of Casablanca, 2.0 class.
     
  12. 300GW/RO

    300GW/RO Formula Junior

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    Yes, but why is the term "spider" applied at all?...what is the "hidden meaning" of spider as used to describe sports cars without a roof. Roadster not sufficient?
    Thanks,
    JN
     

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