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Discussion in 'California/Portofino/Roma' started by Gianfranco341, Sep 17, 2020.

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  1. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I dunno. I've seen a couple of really nice Boxster Spyders at local PCA events that look really sharp. It's not a Ferrari, but NA H6 engine, manual transmission, etc. should be a fun car...T
     
  2. drkita

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    Me and Fast Cars Ltd.! Did you see my 599?? check out 599 spyder thread if you have not..
    Fast Cars in Redondo Beach does excellent work on many vintage italian sports and classic car restorations.
    They have won many awards at Pebble Beach Concours.

    I worked with them in creating my 599 spider (Project17), and its been 3years. No issues with paint or worksmanship.

    I am pretty confident we can make this Roma spider.
    We can shoot for Quail Show next year to reveal.
     
  3. drkita

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    I do like the Boxster spyder. If I was in the market for a Porsche, it would be a hard choice for me between the Boxster spyder and GT4.
     
  4. SVCalifornia

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    Since Ferrari hasn’t shipped unit 1 it might be a stretch to target quail!

    However, in your vision is it a soft top or just a monza style top less design??

    SV
     
  5. drkita

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    Oh I wonder when we will have Romas here. But then the first time we took my 599 to Quail in 2017, the guys didn't really get on the car until January...

    I imagine I can fit a modification of my current 599 soft top mechanism to this one. Probably with slight redesign, especially in the front header area.
    On my 599, a Ferrari California windshield was used, which allowed us to used all the interior trims at the top of the windshield, like the vanity lights, rear view mirror, sun visor, the landing area for the soft top latch, the rubber seal around the windshield...
    All of this makes the finish quality look factory. There are no generic rubber moldings, and exposed screws and the like, which makes it look cheap.

    But in this case, I imagine the Portofino interior trims might just attach and fit without modification.. Of course we would have to confirm this..

    Or,, we could just do a Barchetta monza style finish, not worrying about the soft top mech.. That would make the project a lot cheaper to do..
    Like for me in So Cal, I really didn't need a soft top..
     
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  6. SilverLeaf

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    I was just teasing SVCalifornia...far be it for me for to suggest a Porsche on a Ferrari forum. That said, all of these renders definitely have a Boxster vibe. The rear haunches, decklid rear spoiler, and just the general shape of the Boxster.
     
  7. drkita

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    Dont worry. These are initial visualizations. If I do the 3D modeling and refine the surfaces to look good from any angle, it's not going to look like the Boxster.:cool:
     
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  8. [gTr]

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    I think if you remove the rear deck spoiler all the Boxster comparisons will disappear. Pls do your next render without the rear deck spoiler :) and maybe look into the 812 GTS type diffuser instead for downforce.
     
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  9. SilverLeaf

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    It's a little more than the decklid spoiler...it's also the haunches over the rear wheels, the aero humps behind the seats, the roundedness around the rear bumper area, the general proportions of the front and rear in relation to the positioning of the cockpit, and the rounded front fenders above the wheel wells. There's even a tiny echo of the design in the shape of the outer rear taillights.

    Don't get me wrong...I'm not trying to equate the essence of the two cars. Just pointing out the obvious similarities in many of the design elements. The Roma Spider is certainly more stylish.
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  10. drkita

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    Yes I know what you mean. I don't want to copy the boxster by any means. I think its the angular cut that the Roma has below the rear lights, that go all the way across the whole rear bumper, that make the whole rear look like its angled down like the boxster. I have always liked the look of a slightly moderate spoiler on Ferraris, like the 599 GTO, 288 GTO so I like to try and incorporate them into my designs. The spoiler shape and size, usually ends up different from any sketches or rendering I think, because when you look at the real thing next to you, it feels different. Thats why they do full size clay models usually.

    So I am not sure how I would treat it acutally.
    Maybe an elegant solution is to keep the active spoiler element in the original trunk lid, and reshape and modify it to work on this redesigned rear.

    The look and feel that I would want to realize is more in the 3/4 front views. So maybe my renderings from the rear don't convey it properly.
     
  11. Joshman0531

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    I gotta tell ya, these pics are great! I don't care for the coupe' as much but as a spider, like your rendering, I would buy one.
     
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  12. SilverLeaf

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    drkita, you did a spectacular job on the renders!

    The design you came up with works so beautifully on the Spider - to be honest, I don't think I would change anything, except maybe experimenting with the size of the decklid spoiler. The similarity of some of the design elements to the Boxster Spyder doesn't matter. The whole of the Roma Spider is distinctive and stylish, and the front 3/4 view is definitely unique to Ferrari.
     
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  13. drkita

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  14. Gianfranco341

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    That looks amazing and stunning
     
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  15. tomc

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  16. SVCalifornia

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    Car needs some kind of rollover protection no??

    1.0 looks more practical. A little racier.

    Have you sketched a barchetta??

    SV
     
  17. [gTr]

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    I liked the 1.0 more minus the rear deck spoiler. Such a long flat rear deck look a bit weird to me.
     
  18. SLViper1

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    Love the 2.0 and rollover protection can easily be provided with pop up roll bars, same as Cali t, Mercedes CLK etc.
     
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  19. Cali T HS

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    This is how open sports cars ought to look like. Where can I order it......?
     
  20. Jonathan19

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    Wow! I want a Roma Spider! It's beautiful.
     
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  21. Florida Joe

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    If a Roma spider is in offing for next year, I am cancelling my PF-M build.
     
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  22. clockem

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    Ferrari won’t say a spyder is coming but it will be announced it is just when not if.


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  23. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota F1 Veteran

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    The fact that a Roma Spider will be coming, is no big secret. Several dealers and reps have confirmed this to me and others. The Porto M is just a stop gap car.

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  24. Jonathan19

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    Unveiled this year or 2022?
     
  25. 456-boy

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    Apart from the design, the Portofino M is actually kinda Roma spider: Roma engine, Roma gearbox… under a Portofino body.
     

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