RM auction 8 September 2014

Chris Harris drives the 250 TDF:
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330GT 2+2
#132 VIN 9177 190,400 GBP $307,787
#176 VIN 9929 212,800 GBP $343,998

The 2+2 continues to escalate in value...

 

Not to mention the Ferraris, but I am really suprised by the price of that 205 T16 Pug, 70-80% above the market is totally nuts. Equally surprised by the price of that V85 A110 Alpine, great examples go for 50ish thousand euro in France. I really thought it will stop at 25k pounds, that would have been a bargain. I am not to judge the conditions the cars were in, I was not there this year.

 

And both of those cars looked a bit rough in the photos.

 

What are the thoughts on the nose of the TdF? To me it looks a bit off. Too bulbous around the headlights and not tapering enough of the fenders towards those lights.

 

+1...A 250 GT SWB is prettier in my opinion.

 

I meant compared to other TdFs of the same design. Maybe a not too perfect restoration?

 

LOL ... call it "jingle air mail "

 

and the original 2+2 even more so...

#162 VIN 2877 296,800 GBP $478,632

 

Bob Smith restoration.

 

It was in the early 1990s when 0563 GT was restored by Bob Smith Coachworks.
Twenty years ago.

Marcel Massini

 

The nose of 0563 GT is looking half as bad as 0507GT.

507GT is looking absolute nice but should have very nice Marchal light units rings in front.

but well it was in the 90th difficult to find vintage foto material .

the original 250GT TDF jigs are still available in Villastellona.

Was 0507gt also done by Bob Smith ?

My photo allotment on Ferrarichat is full

ciao

C.

 

Website shows Daytona after fees at £543,200 or about $880,000 US , did anyone get a close look at this car? Shows 1970 miles on speedo appears to be a nice driver..Chuck

 

0507 GT was restored in 2000 by Dino Cognolato in Italy.

Marcel Massini

 

The lack of comment on the mileage by RM in their description would probable indicate the mileage isn't genuine.

 

Buurman has asked me to post these pictures on his behalf, with the following information:

Driver Randaccio Ottavio

Monza Camp lombardo 1956

how it should look with a right reconstruction
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Hated it in Red but I believe that was the original colour............In my opinion the bargain of the night........Perfect straight condition and very undervalued........

 

No catalogue near so cant quote chassis numbers The LHD car was average but the RHD car was a mess....Rotten sills, warped bodywork, needed all the interior but worst of all the entire suspension had collapsed......It stood a good 6 inches lower than the LHD car.........It must have been bought over the phone.......

 

I know its gone to a very good home in Chicago and will be restored to its original colour of Verde Scuro......My only criticism of the car was the thickness of the paint.

 

Interesting info Paul. It's hard to believe that they can get away without disclosing that. You can't really tell there is a suspension problem from the listing photos because they are taken in grass and the photo seems to be taken at a slight angle to make the car appear level. You can see it once you know there is a problem, but hard to tell from a quick glance. 1967 Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 by Pininfarina | London 2014 | RM AUCTIONS

 

what am I missing ?... if the car stood any taller it would resemble a red neck pick up truck that has been lifted. to diagnose a suspension collapse, the top of the tires would need to be obscured by the bodywork, the photos in the link to RM show ample space above the tires... suspension height appears good

 

I agree that it's hard to see in the photos. The first photo appears fine to my eyes, but in the second photo, it looks like the front right is low to the ground based upon the angle of the rocker panel with respect to the ground and also the tire clearance with respect to the fender well (though it's hard to see fender well height from that angle).

 

from my expert view :=) suspension collapse is not apparent, wheel openings are irregular ( with respect to constant radius ) allowing for illusion as the sight line changes... any grassy surface is inconsistent and subject to creating illusions... photos reveal a few other imperfections that only go the overall critical judgement... something the new owner can address if he likes

 

The second photo looks weird to me, but it's also possible I'm seeing things as a result of over analyzing based upon Paul's comments. Either way, if the car suspension is collapsed in real life but not the auction catalog photos, that seems like an issue. Hopefully Paul will chime in regarding whether to collapse he saw in person is visible in the photos.

 

I always say that if I was ever vain enough to have my portrait photographed I would certainly use an auction house photographer and then even I would look beautiful.........

Trust me, in the flesh the car was sitting far too low, sills were rotten and judging by the bulges on the passenger side front wing where it meets the door I doubt there was anything remaining of the lower half of the A pillar.......

In the car's favour, it appeared to be unmolested and orginal.