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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Citadel, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. Citadel

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  2. brewsta430

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    Hey Citadel,

    They are the same. 364014304 is just the interior color code for Grigio Scuro.
     
  3. Citadel

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    ok so charcoal and Grigio Scuro mean the same thing?
     
  4. up4speed

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    In Italian, the translation is "Grey Dark". go figure, I'm Greek, but It's pronounced basically the same, lol
     
  5. bluesea

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    Grigio Scuro likely refers to the stitching color. I have ordered it on my Nero interior F8.
     
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  6. Citadel

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    Ahh that could be. The stitching is grey but a different tone than the seats.
     
  7. Randyslovis

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    No such color as "charcoal" in Ferrari lexicon.

    All colors are in Italian. i.e.: nero, rosso, giallo, grigio medio (medium gray), grigio scuro (dark gray) cuoio, etc.

    When you order a seat and do NOT specify an up-charge stitch color, it comes as "all stitching in same". This means it matches whatever color it is on. Even in a 2 tone interior. So if the stitching is a different color than the seat someone specified a different color for it.

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  8. Citadel

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    Hi Randy

    that’s strange as the build sheet says:
    364014304 Charcoal
     
  9. Randyslovis

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    Just pulled out my build sheet for my 2013 spider.

    I give up!!

    They have mixed Italian and US terms out the wazoo. Never thought much about it until you pointed it out. They use Italian in some places, Italian with US translation in parentheses, and then just plain English elsewhere. After 5 cars I have given up remembering/understanding Ferrari's ways!

    What I do feel comfortable saying is that they use complimentary/matching stitching unless specified and paid for as I stated originally.

    In regards to leather colors as well as paint colors, they have more than you will ever know about. Save for going to the Atelier and looking for them.

    That being said, I find going to PPG for paint colors can clarify almost all the different shades of each silver, red, blue, etc.

    For the leather, you can Google leather touch up products. Those sites frequently can guide you as to whether Grigio scurro is the same as charcoal. At this point in time I am now no longer sure.
    My buddy had blu scurro interior on his Speciale. It was almost black. On his Pista it is now blu Serling. Really deep navy but lighter than scurro. Net: they have an unlimited number of shades of leather as well. It will make your head spin.

    Sorry for any misinformation I may have given you.

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  10. AlfistaPortoghese

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    Not only they mix italian and english terms, even the italian terms don’t add up. I have special stitching in my 458. They call it “Grigio Chiaro” (light grey) when, in fact, it’s distinctly and conspicuously white.

    Kind regards,

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  11. Randyslovis

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    I just did my own search to refresh my memory.

    It appears charcoal is nearly black. Grigio scurro is just super dark gray. (As opposed to their medium and light gray leather colors.)

    I need a drink!

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  12. up4speed

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    Maybe it looks white, but if you put something pure white next to it for a white balance, it may look a little darker than white?
    Mine has silver stitching on black interior. It basically looks white unless I look VERY closely, or compare.
    Just a thought.
     
  13. Il Co-Pilota

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    Sounds more like a factory production error. Saw a car with grigio chiaro this past Monday, and that was definitely light grey and not white. I spent about three hours that same day in a Pista Spider with Bianco stiching just 30 mins prior to seing that car. They were nothing alike. The light grey was light grey, and white was white. Did you order Grigio Chiaro and is that shat your spec sheet reads?

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  14. Surfah

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    I had grigio chiaro stitching on my 458's nero interior and it definitely was light gray and not white. The stitched cavallino's on the headrest showed the grayish hue most obviously.
     
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    You still looking for race seats?
     
  16. AlfistaPortoghese

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    It’s a valid point, Chris. And I thank you for it. But truth be told, for me it’s clearly white regardless of contrast. Photos don’t do justice, but here goes anyway.

    At the dealer I said I wanted white stitching more than once. They said “OK”. When I saw the options sheet it said “Grigio Chiaro”. I went to the dealer somewhat nervous. They told me not to sweat it, they guaranteed me it was white, regardless of what the spec said. And it is. Can’t elaborate further, mainly because the end result was what I wanted in the first place.

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  17. LVP488

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    In Ferrari terminilogy Charcoal is only used as an interior color, and Grigio Scuro is only used as an exterior (paint) color. Whether they look the same or not is a different question ;)
     
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  18. up4speed

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    That makes sense. You interior looks awes. Very similar to mine with silver apparently white stitching. By the way, the “white” stitching is way more “stark” and harsh.
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    I looked up the interior colors to clarify my mistake. It was in a Ferrari repair guide looking at original leathers that they have the Grigio scurro leather color. Had I not seen it I would completely agree with you. I know charcoal is only interior. Turns out interior shares this nomenclature. It wouldn't be Ferrari if there were not exceptions to every rule! OR, leather interior info was wrong but doubt it as there were about 30 different swatch colors noted.

    Sorry if I am still in the wrong. Just reporting what I found.

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  20. rob5819

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    Interesting. As you said, photos don't do it justice. I have nero leather with:

    ALL STITCHINGS IN COLOUR Grigio Chiaro STC1 482
    HORSE STITCHED ON HEADREST EMPH Grigio Chiaro

    and my stitching is definitely not white. Much more of a light gray or silver. I had floor mats from Andrew made to match and the stitching is also not white. If i could get a picture that captured it correctly I would post it.

    Rob
     
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    Looks like you have charcoal interior with Grigio Scuro stitching. Charcoal is available as an interior color as well as for interior stitching / embroidery. Grigio Scuro is available on the interior only for stitching / embroidery and not as an interior color. Grigio Scuro is also available as an exterior paint.
     
  24. Citadel

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    @Texas2step- was your reply to me and the initial interior photo I posted?
     
  25. Texas2step

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    Yes. I was just responding to your question in relation to Difference between Grigio Scuro and Charcoal
     

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