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Prices on 400i?

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by G-Car-Man, Dec 28, 2005.

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  1. G-Car-Man

    G-Car-Man Karting

    Nov 21, 2003
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    Greg K
    I found one in NY for sale for what seems to be a 'too good to be true' price($17.5k). What questions do I ask about these cars? Are the 400's all 12 cylinders? I probably should of done a seach first but any feedback will be appreciated... Thanks!
     
  2. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Sep 5, 2002
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    Depends. These are expensive cars to maintain and so the cost of catching up on deferred maintenance can easily eat up any purchase discount that you receive. 400i Autos seem to have asking prices in low-mid 20's with some records. I know of several with selling prices in the $18K area that needed some work.

    A thorough PPI is essential to figure out what condition the car is in. Areas to look for include electrical system, rear suspension, cosmetics such as dash leather shrinkage near the windshield.

    What do you know about the car? Do you have the s/n? I've tracked 400is for sale for the last several years. Maybe this is one that is contiually changing hands.

    John

    edit: Yes, all 12 cylinders, all gray market. Should have EPA/DOT papers to be licensed in the U.S.
     
  3. scorpion

    scorpion Formula Junior

    Jan 19, 2004
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    It sounds like the one Gullwing Motor Cars has for sale. If it is they've had it for a while. I always wondered about those guys - they always seem to have cars listed with very low prices but I have never dealt with them or know of anyone who has.
     
  4. andrewg

    andrewg F1 Rookie
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    Sep 10, 2002
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    If you do a quick search for 400's it'll turn up loads of advice and tips from those of us on the board who have owned and driven them.

    Typical things to look for are Rust, Rust, Rust & more Rust, the condition of the exhaust is also key as it costs around $6k for a full system + fitting (the injection and parts of the front suspension need to be taken off to do it), electrical bits and peices are the usual 70's/80's Italian quality, the rear suspension is a self levelling hydraulic affair and is notoriously expensive to put right if there's something wrong

    In short search, read up all you can and get a decent ppi from somebody who knows 400's
     
  5. G-Car-Man

    G-Car-Man Karting

    Nov 21, 2003
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    ding ding ding we have a winner... it has been listed for a long time and I just noticed they lowered the price... caught my attention but I think it is ending there... not looking to become an italian mechanic just so I can drive an automatic tranny ferrari... thanks for the responses...
     
  6. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 19, 2001
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    Heeeeeey, what's wrong with being a DIY Ferrari mechanic. And it's a Chevy "automatic" tranny Ferrari.
     
  7. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

    Apr 26, 2003
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    A 365/400/400i/412 will eat you alive if you try and bring one back from the dead.

    Problem areas, as was mentioned, rust, expensive as hell exhaust to replace, shocks that need sorting. Some trim is unobtainium.

    They aren't complicated cars, yes, there is two of everything on the later cars, but it is still pretty straightforward for a competent mechanic. Repair prices will solely be a factor of what work is needed.

    These were the top of the line Ferraris when new and are rather expensive beasts to keep on the road, parts prices haven't matched the "entry level" purchase price. As a result, plenty of people have said "oh look, a Ferrari under $20k, I can afford that". But that is just the cover charge to ownership. When they realize it, they get passed on to someone with even less resources as the price goes down.

    A well sorted example is a hell of a GT car, if you are interested in one, don't shop on price, shop on condition. Any body parts that have rusted to hell will need to be remade from scratch, there are very few spares out there.
     

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