Are there any comments on Keith Bluemel's Estimated Values just out in Cavallino? GTE - 75K$ to 125K$ 330GT - 45K$ - 100K$ COnsidering the upper end is defined as "Excellent" but not "Show Perfect" these numbers are surprising to some. But not to some of you whose crystal ball was pretty accurate. I'll buy the first round - I just made 20K$ today. But can I afford insurance? Cheers Warren
Whoa! Now I might have to reconsider reassembling my GTE basket case. I have a 100% complete, but in hundreds of parts, series 2 GTE (#3805) that I was seriously considering selling as is. I've had it since 1983 but have not been able to touch it in nearly 18 years - it's just sitting in my garage. I've spent most of that past 18 years working and living out of the US and have had not had any time to play with the car. Now I'm probably beyond the age where I will ever finish the rebuild and have been considering selling it as a "project car" or even parting it out. But with these kinds of numbers, my decision to sell or work on it should be accelerated. Any thoughts? Bob
If you've held it that long, there's only one thing to do. Put it back together and drive it! If you don't have the heart/stomach for it I'm sure you'll have people pounding on your door looking to take it off your hands. T308
The listing is 180K$ (Boano) - 200K$ (Ellena) to 400K$ (Both) Unless being bored out to 260 changes the value. Cheers Warren
Warren, the numbers look reasonable judging bt the asking prices of the few cars for sale and recent auction results. BTW, you ought to add $30K to your car once the repairs are done, I am sure it will be in the "upper tier"
A very nice 2 headlamp 1966 330 GT 2+2 was at Steve Harris last week, Asking price was $70,000. I offfered $50,000. The car was sold at the $70,000 within the next two days! I would be VERY interested in either a very nice "needs nothing 250GTE or 330 GT 2+2 at around $50,000, but I don't think this is possible..
I think boring them out would hurt the value, just a typo. I was interested in the new listing for 1558-1960 250 PF Coupe. In the last issue (Dec/Jan) it was around $145k at the high end. Thanks, Greg
Tpos hppen. I was PM'ing someone on the merits of a Columbo V-12, and, instead of typing a simple 1-2, I made it a Columbo V-23... I think that the values are right on, although the spread may be too high, and the starting number may be too low. This is probably because no one knows for sure; the values are probably still rising, and it's harder to hit a moving target. Regardless, it's good news for us owners. I might regret that serious enthusiast who are shopping now will have to pay a premium over what they would have paid just a year or two ago... Matt
Hi Greg: That was a great typo - took me back to the far distant days when the guy who bored and stroked his 59A (Flathead Ford/Mercury Block for you young guys) the most was the coolest and thought to be the fastest. As far as typo's are concerned, if I had to make my living typing, I would not be on this board! Maybe a Yugo Board. Now about typo's - I didn't realize they made PF coupes for that many years. But seriously, were the Ellena and Boano the cars you asked about. I am still learning the names of the all the various Ferrari models. Cheers Warren
i am missing something....what are these projections for? Are these estimated values in 3 months, 1 year, 5, or...?
OK, then. If I wait a few months I can trade mine for a 360 Modena. If I wait 1-2 years I can trade it for a Gallardo. I am still enjoying it and all.....but the runup and the options are a nice thing...
I bought the only Platinum winner at Palm Beach 3 headlight 330 Gt 2+2, all doct's , Ferrari Heritage certificate, ridiculously expensive paint work. $70K plus just topped it off with a complete engine rebuild (mechanical, cosmetic, interior, body were as close to perfect as you can get). Rebuild at Ferrari dealership. Figure I have $90USD into it, but (maybe a wee bit biased), I doubt a better one exists. Do a PPI and check them out thoroughly before you buy. As we all know, cheap vehicles are rarely any good, and anything good is rarely cheap. Good luck in your search. These days $50 buys you a poor vehicle. Carlo
At the most recent RM Auction, s/n 6343, a red 330 2+2 with black leather interior sold at $70,000 plus commission, or $77,000. That's a four-headlight model, in OK but not great condition.
My Series I 4HL is much better than "OK", but not "great" as in professionally restored or excellent, unchanged original, so that seems to be a good indication of the range I'm in.
I've seen them trade at auctions in the 90s (for exceptional examples), but also in the 70s. And the asking prices I have seen recently have been in the 60s-70s, or so it seems.
Don, My guess is that all of the '60s 2+2s are in a similar price range where the condition will dominate value. For a given condition, the GTE and America will be a bit higher than a 330 or 365. I do not know of and #1 condition cars that have sold very recently to test the top end of the market. Dead but complete projects seem to be worth $45k and up. Regards, Art S.
I keep seeing rusty and tired GTEs for sale in Europe in the U$ 70s, so the new Cavalllino might be closer to reality that I first thought. A #2 car should be nudging six figures on both sides of the pond. I am not uhappy about this escalation as an owner, but I think I will worry more when I drive it....Gotta call Hagerty and adjust the agreed value figure, too...
Heritage Classics Motorcar Co had been advertising s/n 9533, an anthracite 330 GT with red interior, for around $75,000. It's no longer on their website, and I'm not sure where it went or what was paid for it. They are, however, now offering a nice GTE for $92,500: http://www.heritageclassics.com/ferrari/63sil250gte4/Page.html