Italian Police in Monza Paddock *possible spoiler*

Where were you when I was defending Kim against all these so-called Ferrari fans early in the season. I think it is outrageously hypocritical of a lot fo folks here to accuse me of being anti-Ferrari when they were calling for Kimi's head 4 races into the season and I was one of the few on here not only supporting huim, but predicitng he would win the WDC in 2007. Pretty convenient of you to forget that fact...

I have been following and supporting Ferrari's F1 team for longer than many of you have been alive. I can't recall ever having to lampoon a competing driver's name nor have I ever had a problem with supporting a great race driver even if he didn't drive for Ferrari. It seems to me that a lot of you Ferrari sycophants don't even like racing. I know exacltly why I am on these boards, sometimes I wonder why people like you are here, after all this is the "RACING & TRACKING" forum. Perhaps we need a separate forum for Ferrari sycophants?

 

Easy.

They are not going by what is known, they are going solely on the basis of their speculations.

The more level-headed and fair-minded of us are waiting for the true facts to come out before calling for McLaren's punishment. If the FIA rules against them, then they should suffer whatever punishment is meted out. However, the rush to judgement based solely on biases, pre-conceived notions, and outright speculation that we have seen by some of the so-called "Tifosi" (the same Tifosi that couldn't see fit to support both the team's drivers earlier this season, by the way) is patently ridiculous.

It is a shame that insisting on allowing the investigative process to unfold and waiting for the truth to become known is enough for some of us to be lambasted on these boards as being "anti-Ferrari". Pretty telling, if you ask me.

 

By what I mean as "known" is the facts as of now not that many.. speculations yes I agree .
I do consider most of your posts most balanced and objective.

However I feel your avatar needs a cardboard wing attached to it

 

you're a joke, espousing more vile and bluster , and still playing 'little sir echo' you McL sycophant

let's see if you disappear after the hearing where they get their just desserts, I know I'll never be back in this section of fchat if the McCheating tosspots get away with it again

 

From Speed TV interview with Ron Dennis:

Dennis also clarified the nature of the contact the team had had with the Italian authorities on Saturday.

“First of all the gentlemen who came to the circuit were from the magistrates’ office, they were not police. Secondly they were extremely polite, and wanted to be very discreet. I didn’t want to discuss anything with them until the company’s Italian lawyer arrived.

“There was a very simple meeting which had no aggression to it whatsoever, and which was purely needed to establish who, in the event of McLaren needing representation in Italy, would it be. And that’s what took place. We were not accused of anything, we didn’t receive any aggressive paperwork or any notification of intent, save for the fact that obviously all those people associated with the problematical issues between two employees, those issues we may we are told have some necessity to be involved.”

 

So all this hand wringing over a false report.
Killer.
Time for me to walk away from the screen for awhile.
SpongeBob here I come.

 

This is to clarify the fact that it is true... the top McL executives are not under indictment. The "notifica of garanzia" is a notification that you are under investigation and the charges, as I previuosly posted, are: sport fraud, embezzlement and industrial espionage. With this "notifica " you will be interrogated and therefore you must retain legal counsel.

 

well well don't we look a right Wally following the Lucifer interview

close but not the whole cigar lucky (I'm on your team btw )

seems they did do it professionally, it was just the usual media hype (guess which media ??)

so, both feet in mouth and vacuum between ears ...... another senna ratbag hiding behind anonymity

Tony T. is the only Senna supporter that posts here who is not bitter and twisted,

 

Once again, you prove yourself to have your head so firmly up your arse that it is pointless to even speak with you.

Why don't you take time off from holding up your Michael Schumacher poster with one hand to go re-read each and every one of my posts that said I would reserve judgement until the facts are KNOWN. Notice, I said KNOWN, not speculated on, but KNOWN.

If the FIA rules against McLaren, then I think they should be punished appropriately. I know this is a fact that may be far too subtle for your pinhead mind to wrap itself around, but I and the more fair-minded and intelligent indivuduals (which clearly EXCLUDES you) are wiating for an actual hearing to take place and for evidence to be presented and ruled upon before we draw swords for McLaren.

You, on the other hand, are so damned simple minded that a fact as evident and obvious as this one escapes you. You instead have to fall back on yoru ridiculous and stupid claims that we are McLaren apologists.

I would have thought that being made a complete and total fool by me over my 355 would have taught you to keep your foolish comments to yourself and to learn to wait for the actual truth to arise before levelling unfounded, false, and slanderous accusations but clearly I overestimated even your moronic mind. You , sir, are an idiot, you have always been an idiot, and sadly you will continue to be an idiot.

So go enjoy a nice cup of STFU, try to remove your head from your arse, and leave the intelligent discussion to those of us whose IQs are in the triple digits.

 

You were supposed to disappear after I made you look like a complete arsehole by posting pics of my 355.

Promises, promises. The day you leave F-Chat will be a great day for the rest of us. Don't go away mad, just go away.

 

never made that statement, go find it and post it

 

lets not lose sight of what's important here...
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+1, but don't forget this
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Funny enough Ron Dennis might help push the trigger: Paragon has become a financial burden around his neck. If Mercedes would pull the plug, that whole factory would be up for sale in a heartbeat. In addition RD has lost a lot of good people who don't want to work in that sterile environment. They're now back at the old factory working for Prodrive.

 

I a bit lost on your pic. please explain.

 

We had this discussion during your myriad of false and slanderous accusations about my Ferrari ownership.

My photos have been up for a while. I am still waiting for your apology.

 

I'm not surprised to hear that. The workplace rules there are pretty ridiculous from what I have heard.

 

Thats the McLaren factory/Ron Dennis's baby burning.

 

RD tried to ban food and water within the complex, didn't work. But anything that causes dust isn't allowed, and you aren't allowed any personal items on your desk. Can somebody say Dicatorship or McCheatership.

 

thanks...and yes, to relate now back to your comment: can those that are bickering on a personal basis, at least include pics of torture to include my avitar?

 

are they selling iceskates in hell already ???

 

Uh...he's actually on your side. He's cooperating.

 

If he can get McLaren kicked out and Ferrari to win the WCC, I might have a change of heart towards him. I do have some respect for him turning McLaren in, but it was a little bit too late.

 

Acting like a man is more than we can expect, it would appear.

 

To be fair, the man did prove you wrong. The right thing to do would be apologize for the attack about his ownership, no?