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458 How difficult is it to remove all of the sticky buttons?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by ekosan, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. ekosan

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    #1 ekosan, Oct 27, 2020
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    Preface: I knew about sticky button issues with older cars like 360, 430, etc; however, when I was in the process of ordering the F8, I asked about that and the sales person said, "no...it's not an issue anymore." I might have even asked that when pivoting to the 458 Speciale.

    Prior to purchasing the car, I saw pics of the HVAC and it looked pretty rough. I asked about it, and the sales person said, "Usually when it's an issue, the black comes off on your finger when you touch it..." Needless to say, almost everything, with the exception of the controls on the headliner, is tacky and some is downright worn off (the reverse button is mostly shiney plastic with a ring of goo on the circumference). The service manager said Ferrari's stance is to clean it to where it gets stripped off or I can send it to stickyrx. Estimated labor is 10 hrs at $265/hr to remove and reinstall the pieces (not including stickyrx's fees which appears to be around $8k...I guess one benefit to the Speciale is no glovebox controls or seat controls, eh?). My car will be up on a lift, sleeping away for the winter, so I'm inclined to remove the pieces myself and send it off. For those who have done it, are the whole modules sent (entire HVAC unit, steering wheel, etc)? Any links to writeups? I'm not shy about working on my cars and have replaced suspensions, clutches, set the timing on my M3, etc.

    TIA!
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  3. FFan5

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    I plan on doing the same this winter, but going with the middle road. I bet I can find someone to come to my house and do this for way less than $265/hr. The only question for me is Carplastix or StickyRX. For the life of me, I cannot understand StickyRx's prices. $400 for just the three PS/Auto/R buttons? But then $800 for the entire HVAC? I mean, $400 for three buttons (with lasering) seems outrageous, but the entire HVAC for $800 seems like a fair deal. Weird.
     
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  4. michaelo

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    Well, I had the same issue. I just cleaned the the buttons with alcohol just to remove any surface dirt and I used a flat water based varnish
    brushed on and after 5 or six coats, no more sticky buttons and there is no residue or filminess.
    It worked for me and I am very happy with the result.
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  5. michaelo

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    I forgot to mention that this can be obtained through Amazon.
     
  6. ekosan

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    Yeah, I found the pricing a bit strange. Of course, I had the price sheet for a 458, so things might be different for the Speciale. For example, the fuel door and trunk switches: $400. Maybe it's different on the 458, but they are two afterthought buttons thrown onto the door card. I've seen their videos and it seems that each item is carefully placed in a vise instead of a jig being used to hold it in the same position every time to speed things along. I have a thought of seeing how difficult it would be to have all of these control surfaces machined out of billet and anodized. It wouldn't cost nearly as much as the price to refinish.


     
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  8. VelocityTexas

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    Do you have any before and after photos?
     
  9. DoubleD33

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    The price of Sticky RX correlates to their work.

    I can’t speak for Sticky No More quality but I can say they have my directions on 458 button removal on their website. (Willingly gave it to them)

    I am anal and went with Rx.
     
  10. michaelo

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    I do not have any before photos. The buttons were just sticky. They didn't look bad at all.
    So I am not sure whether this fix is good if you happen to be dealing with surface disintegration or what appears to be pitting in the rubber coating.
    I will take some pictures and post them.
    Again, I was not dealing with a really serious issue. It was just a matter of the buttons being irritatingly sticky.
     
  11. VelocityTexas

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    My 458 has very, very little stickiness to the soft parts. I am on Maserati forums and folks are always looking for solutions there as well and wanted to know if this really works. If it does I'd share there too.
     
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  13. MalibuGuy

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    I think if they are just sticky maybe just live with it.
    When they become opaque, then I’d use one the cleaning methods which will remove the surface coating but not disturb the letters or icons.
     
  14. ferrariblue

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    I have a '14 458 Italia and recently began treating my buttons to prevent a sticky type deterioration. Some surfaces were starting to get slightly "tacky". What I experimented as far as a solution with was very simple, it was Mineral Oil. I simply rubbed in the mineral oil with the tip of my fore finger. It returned the rubber to its normal feeling. Do not use cotton, etc. It worked well and the rubber absorbs the oil. It seems to act as a preservative to the rubber. I'm still testing / monitoring the effects and I'm still pleased. It's been about 4 to 5 months with good results.
     
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  15. Chadly

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    I just removed the coating completely myself on my F12. Buttons are shiny now but thank God I bought my car to drive it and not show it. I think climate has a huge impact on how bad they get. My 458 is 4 years older with triple the miles and it has zero sticky button issues but it spends most of its life in Philadelphia. My F12 "which the dealer sold me as a CPO" showed up with horrendous buttons. They were sticky and looked terrible. I guess they CPO the cars even with jacked buttons. The car spent its entire life in Florida. If you are patient and careful I think one could easily remove everything with out beating up the buttons like I did. I was in a hurry to get it off so I could enjoy the car.
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  16. kiryu

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    90% of the buttons and bezels are easy to remove. The toughest is the center menu button for the radio, whole dash has to come out. HVAC isnt as bad as I recall, just the glove box area and lower carpets. I removed them all myself a couple of years ago. If you work on clutches etc. it's easy for you. My handiness doesnt go beyond brake flush and oil changes
     
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