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430 Frank Stephenson on How He Designed the F430

Discussion in '360/430' started by freshmeat, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    I thought this and his other videos were pretty interesting! Enjoy:

     
  2. stan996turbo

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    I like all the changes he made to 430 except although I like the Scuderia nose better. I have another one of his designs in the 675LT and I think that is one the best looking sports cars in the last 30 years.
     
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  3. KC360 FL

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    Interesting that he wasn't given a "clean sheet of paper" as they say. He openly admits the car was an update to the 360 and not really a new design. Kind of confirms why I always looked at it as a warmed over 360. Of course the HP was upped and the timing chains replacing the belts was a great upgrade to the performance. But the looks... meh. Except the headlights. I like the headlights a lot.

    Bettering a Pininfarina design... big shoes to fill indeed.
     
  4. Husker

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    for something warmed over it sure looks nice!
     
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  5. freshmeat

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    #5 freshmeat, Jul 4, 2020
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    FYI Pininfarina employed Frank Stephenson so it’s still a Pininfarina design, just like whoever they hired to design the 360...difference is the previous designer doesn’t have the resume Frank does.

     
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    timing chain is a downgrade to timing belt performance wise.

    things i can think of: weight, inertia, etc.


     
  7. freshmeat

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    Things I can think of: faster, more durable, faster, faster, faster etc.
     
  8. 24000rpm

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    chain is slower, because it is heavier. more inertia
    durability is not performance.


     
  9. freshmeat

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    Durability is not performance? Tell that to folks who race in Le Mans and every other Motorsport that extends beyond leaving the garage.
     
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  10. KC360 FL

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    Should have said, bettering the 360 in design a tall task indeed... But thanks for the info.
     
  11. catdog

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    Loved this video; great series and wonderful design., a nice evolution of 360 which is a beautiful design in its own right.
     
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    As much as the 360 and 430 were exciting in their day the 458 , to my eye , is truly stunning.
    If it only had a stick.

    I also prefer the Scud angular front end to the rounded nostrils of the normal 430.
     
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    I second that. When I saw the 458 in photos I was somewhat unmoved. When I saw it in person for the first time, I couldn't take my eyes off of it. A beautifuly designed body with just enough "edge design" to compliment the flow of the lines. The Scud front end shows me that I can like angular design in the right doses and right places.
     
  14. freshmeat

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    I don't particularly like the 458 design; isn't really about the edges or angularity, but overall, it feels too feminine to me. I liken that feeling to when I see a California; it's a pretty car for my wife.

    The Speciale is less so, but I hate the front-end...reminds me of a dustbuster and angry catfish.
     
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  15. freshmeat

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    He just added a Maserati MC12 video! I’ve always found it cooler and sleeker than an Enzo.

     
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    Very cool, vids. Thank you for sharing. :D
     
  17. catdog

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    Holy crap, he designed the MC12? always felt it captured Maserati design spirit.. thanks for pointing to his new video...
     

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