FERRARI SHOULD LEAVE F1 FOR GOOD

No.

 

This just proves..there is zero F1 engine tech in the current road car. Ferrari has no v6 powered cars.

F1 is what it is. You wanna play..then it's by thier rules..

 

No.

Number of cylinders is, I’d suggest, close on irrelevant in the comparison. Just look at the tech that Mercedes have announced they have transferred to their road cars in turbo technology.

And not forgetting that the next back of new Ferrari’s are likely to be hybrid of some sort...and where is that tech/ knowledge going to come from?

(Jaguars current v6 is a v8 with two cylinders blanked off!)

Besides you didn’t any manufacturer making a v10 in that era nor making a 1.6ltr v6 for the past 6 years?

 

First, consider being a little less "judgey".

Second, the era of huge v12 engines is almost over. Electric is in, it's going to be in.. first as Hybrid then perhaps all electric. That F12 sounds nice but it's already a dinosaur the same way hand crank start engines are. Writing is on the wall, legislation will follow sooner or later and at that point you will only be able to drive it on a track.

 

The noise and pollution regs are killing the NA cars and forcing all fossil fuel vehicles to be rethought
Enjoy the 12s10s and 8s while they last


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As much as I hate to say it, @vrsurgeon is right. The advantages of electric outweigh ICE in the long term. True, I enjoy the occasional Vinyl, but I don't miss going to the record shop and taking 30 minutes to find that song I want to audition. Having every song in existence being able to be pulled in in a second is too much of a value prop.

Enjoy the last days of ICE, smoke em if you got em'

 

Yet

 

Umm nope. You missed the big memo.

Mercedes is longer continuing the development of the gasoline engine.

 

as did you!!

Anybody who thinks electric cars will completely replace ice is smoking something. There is not enough rare minerals in the world to do that anyway!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/volkswagen-combustion-engine-has-life-it-yet

 

Ohh don't get me wrong. I'm not looking forward to it and for a billion different reasons the world isn't ready for electric cars.

I have been saying it for 20 years. I havw converted 4 regular cars to electric and raced them and competed against MIT in the tour de sol etc...

The battery tech just isn't there yet.

However without making this political... The legislation and movement is making pushing it that direction.

But again Mercedes isn't going to develop the ICE any longer.

Whether or not it's a mistake or the needed push to get the technology for the next step is anyone's guess...

My personal take is people are looking at EVs as the end all be all.... My version is battery powered cars are not the end. It is going to be a short stepping stone.

Batteries and the technology are either just not there or environmentally just as disastrous as ICE. so there will be another green movement to get rid of them to go on to the next thing.

 

With the latest benz engine offerings, I can see why they are giving it up. What a crappy engine that 4 cylinder turbo is. It's an insult really.

 

Really? What don't you like. Genuinely curious.

Don't get me wrong I am so sick of 2.0liter 4 cylinders but I understand why they exist.

 

Justin, you just wrote my current sentiments. I hate the idea ICE is going away, but the writing is on the wall. I do think though that a full 'ban' will take longer then (thankfully my lifetime) - in a way, it may make 'special' ICE cars more special as all mainstream models go to fully electric.

 

Wow, the 415 HP 2 litter to me seems to be a marvel? Again, agreed with @technom3
(this is me saying with a Ferrari V12 in the garage)

Might not be my cup of tea, but it's quite impressive, up there with the MR440.

 

Oh..boy..were to begin. The problems with these engine are simply monumental. Pending class action law suits in regards to the timing chains failing, water pump failures which require a huge amount of work to change out, the engines are noisy, turbo oil line leaks, all fail prematurely. Thermostat issues.

And if you look at how these components are designed and the materials used to make them, the reason for the failure is obvious. Any moron would look at the water pumps and know they will stop working in a short amount of time..plastic, vacuum operated shut valve made of plastic, and yes let put all this plastic under a turbo.

The engine is an awful, awful thing. So poorly designed I think a 1st year engineering student could have done a better packaging job of it.

Anyway.. if you want more..just ask..I'm here all week..

 

Lol.

Gotcha. I appreciate the Actual technical response. I am so used to people replying I just hate 4 cylinders. And I hate turbos.

So thank for the actual specific mechanical short comings of the Mercedes engine.

 

Agreed with post above, thanks for the context, I readily admit I know nothing when it comes to that engine and reliability.