Ferrari FF vs Panamera TurboS

Easy one. If youre going to use back seats then get the 4 door pana. If only rare back seat use, then ff

 

Turbo S is not the quickest car in the segment, great from stop light to stop light but trap speed at 1/4 mile is the lowest vs competition (RS7, M5 Comp, CLS/E63).
If I were you I would test drive thoroughly the Audi RS7 and CLS63S before making any decision.
IMO, both much quicker, more comfortable and practical then either the Pana or FF.
Both blend easier with traffic which makes them better from social and legal (cops) point of view (an important factor for daily driver).

 

Can't compare the driving characteristics of a turbo vs a naturally aspirated car. Turbo will give you the low end torque shove, whereas FF is more progressive and, honestly the FF has a much better sound, particularly at full boil even though muted by sound deadening to,maintain the luxury GT Character. The Panny has all the creature comforts, bells and whistles whereas the FF has that glorious V12. Both great cars. I will disagree with Absent in that Pannys in my neck of the woods are common and blend in without seeming to attract much attention. The FF would not go unnoticed.


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Sounds like you have your own priorities and perceptions. On being noticed, I have been surprised that my FF is noticed as much as it is because it is not nearly as flamboyant as the sports cars. But it is noticed quite a lot. If that bothers you, you have to weigh that into your consideration. As far as the driving experience is concerned, you seem to sense the differences in the cars. So you will value them according to your own priorities. My best suggestion is to drive them again and get in touch with what your gut tells you.

 

If you are not looking to get noticed and you want something fast get the Mercedes E63 wagon. That thing hauls and is very fun to drive. Flies under the radar until you blow them away at the stoplight. 0-60 in 3.4 seconds!

 

I guess you were kidding about the speed thing.

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I apologize, I should've been more clear.
Modding all my cars became a second nature to me and I don't even think about it anymore.
I always do Renntech mods on my daily drivers and on my current E63S I have only the ECU done at a cost of just $4k.
Rwhp currently at 586 (about 700+Hp at the crank).
Measured 1/4 mile in Joliet track :10.86 with trap 126.8 mph.
You are right of course, stock for stock FF will walk away from CLS or E at speeds over 100mph.
....slowly walk away though.....

 

dilemmas dilemmas



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Tough problem. I like to say that any problem that can be solved with money is not a real problem. It's the problems that you can't solve with money that you have to watch out for.

 

Yeah, don't forget to keep an eye on the problems you don't have enough money to solve too. They hit hard aswell.

 

Yeah... I know. But the idea is you always have a chance to beg, borrow, or steal. But point granted.

 

For a low key but solid DD, any of the usual picks (M-B, BMW, Audi) are all good. Personally I have an X5M.

You should absolutely want the FF, and really only get it if it excites you. It's a much, much more usable Ferrari -rear seats, boot, 4RM, et al. Doesn't scream Ferrari quite like a 458.

For us, it was the way it drove that caught us. The "usual picks" are all fine, but the FF as a driver on 2 lane, twisty, up-and-down roads is just incredible. My wife takes our girls to school most days and, for her, it makes the commute fun and rewarding. Having done that ride in an AMG, an Audi and BMW M, it's good, too. Just not (as) great. That for us was the factor.

Good luck, please keep us posted.

 

Yes. A big amazing driver's car.

 

Mods aside, I think this sums up the difference between the turbos and the FF V12.

The turbos are very quick at normal road speeds but its up in the stratosphere that the FF starts to shine.

That is something I'm a big fan of, but I think some drivers are actually reassured in a car where the grunt falls off a bit at higher speeds. Some folks do find the V12's ability to seemingly pull harder (or at least not fall off) at the real high speeds positively unnerving.

I guess if I wanted a car as a DD and I didn't want to obsess over dings and dirt and traffic, an RS7 sounds like a great choice (as for Porsches, great cars but I like my Porsches little). I think no matter how well off you are, its kind of hard to own a Ferrari and not, well, baby it a little bit!

 

I thought that was the point of this thread, practicality for daily use.
Otherwise, for any other use, weekend toy or as a second or third car, the FF is on a different planet as far as driving experience, "feel and touch", fun and overall satisfaction is concerned, not just raw numbers of 0-60 or whatever .

 

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You'll always have the opportunity to buy a turbocharged 4-seater. Are we sure we'll always have the option of a year-round NA V12 4-seater that's tuned by Ferrari?

 

Addendum:

If I used the Autobahn regularly I'd consider the Turbo because of the constant and vast fluctuation in mph on such roads. But anywhere else, it would have to be the FF.

 

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I got the Pani GTS and a 458. Perfect combo

 

ff and 458 would ve been a better combo

actually, 12c and ff would be even better. lmao.

 

Yes, because no one is buying them.