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Ferrari at Amelia Island '17

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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy Formula 3
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    RM Amelia 278 1950 Ferrari 166MM Touring Barchetta 0058M $8 - 10 mil.
    Bonhams Amelia 144 1955 Ferrari 250GT Alloy Pininfarina Coupe 0389GT $2.3 - 2.6 mil.
    RM Amelia 254 1961 Ferrari 250GT Short Wheelbase 2639GT $9 - 10 mil.
    RM Amelia 247 1963 Ferrari 330GT America 2+2 5049GT $400 - 500k
    RM Amelia 263 1964 Ferrari 275GTB 06681 $1.8 - 2 mil. (N.R.)
    RM Amelia 241 1967 Ferrari 330GTC 10267 $650 - 750k
    Gooding Amelia 65 1968 Ferrari 206GT Dino 00152 $750 - 900k
    Gooding Amelia 11 1969 Ferrari 206GT Dino 00332 $500 - 600k
    Gooding Amelia 35 1969 Ferrari 365GTC 12325 $725 - 825k
    Gooding Amelia 53 1969 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 13047 $275 - 325k
    RM Amelia 269 1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Competizione 14115 $1.25 - 1.5 mil.
    RM Amelia 274 1972 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14585 $600 - 700k
    Gooding Amelia 71 1973 Ferrari 246GTS 05846 $300 - 375k
    RM Amelia 229 1974 Ferrari 246GTS 07798 $350 - 400k
    RM Amelia 230 1977 Ferrari 308GTB 21167 $80 - 100k (N.R.)
    Gooding Amelia 40 1978 Ferrari 308GTB 26637 $150 - 180k (N.R.)
    Bonhams Amelia 167 1986 Ferrari 328GTS 64209 $80 - 100k (N.R.)
    Gooding Amelia 72 1987 Ferrari Testarossa 70383 $125 - 175k (N.R.)
    Gooding Amelia 60 1988 Ferrari 328GTB 75593 $140 - 160k (N.R.)
    Bonhams Amelia 129 1988 Ferrari Testarossa 78854 $125 - 145k (N.R.)
    Gooding Amelia 49 1989 Ferrari 328GTS 81966 $160 - 180k (N.R.)
    Gooding Amelia 29 1990 Ferrari F40 87041 $1.3 - 1.6 mil.
    Bonhams Amelia 155 1990 Ferrari 348TS Challenge 86947 $60 - 90k (N.R.)
    RM Amelia 265 1991 Ferrari Testarossa 87750 $275 - 400k
    RM Amelia 218 1995 Ferrari F50 104220 $2.2 - 2.4 mil.
    Gooding Amelia 85 1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 107198 $80 - 100k (N.R.)
    RM Amelia 212 1998 Ferrari 550 Maranello 110686 $125 - 150k (N.R.)
    RM Amelia 226 2001 Ferrari 550 Barchetta 124295 $575 - 650k
    Gooding Amelia 47 2004 Ferrari 360 Spider 138220 $140 - 160k (N.R.)
    Bonhams Amelia 138 2005 Ferrari 575M Superamerica 145099 $400 - 450k
    Gooding Amelia 54 2007 Ferrari 599GTB Fiorano 152365 $700 - 800k
    Gooding Amelia 73 2015 Ferrari La Ferrari 210482 $3.8 - 4.5 mil.
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    Prices are in US$.
    Just 32 Ferrari are on offer, much lower than other years, fully 1 in every 5 cars will be Porsche however, almost 60 examples. Thats where the market is heading.
     
  2. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    Will this auction be broadcast live? I can't find this information on their website.
     
  3. TTR

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    Or directed to and lemmings will follow ?
     
  4. amenasce

    amenasce Two Time F1 World Champ
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    575 SA no sale at $340k
    TR sold at $73k
    CGT With 8k miles and black, no sale at $520k!
    Countach 5000 QV sold at $305k

    Healthy corrections continue...
     
  5. amenasce

    amenasce Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Europa Alloy at $2,025,000 + prem.
     
  6. ARTNNYC

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    1990 Ferrari 348 Challenge sold for 40k + comm
     
  7. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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  8. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Lemmings is not inaccurate, every cycle has those that jump right on that bandwagon and ride it hard....
     
  9. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    How much will changing the schedule due to rain affect RM? Are they the only Saturday auction? The concours has been moved up a day.
     
  10. 275GTBSaran

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    Did it sell? If yes for how much....?
     
  11. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Gooding results this morning were steady and unspectacular, maybe a little light but no harm. I would say that many vendors are looking at peak prices (outliers) and that is their enticement to offer their pride and joy and yet buyers are looking for either bargains or at least good buys. That is the dichotomy of a mature market.

    $11.9 for the XKSS was probably a couple of million low but a deal could have been done if the vendor was motivated.
    $3.4 for the yellow LaFerrari was perhaps $500k light but again close enough for a deal
    $650k for the Dino 206GT ditto.....

    All examples where they could make a sale if they really wanted to, or hold and wait up to a decade for the next boom and bust market cycle. If as I suspect all of these cars have been bought years earlier, then the purchase would have been at amounts much lower, so its not like the vendor is going to lose money selling at the prices offered and if you are no longer in love with the car, take the money and buy something you do love.
     
  12. 275GTBSaran

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    Totally agree with you.
     
  13. malcolmjl

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    Apparently is was discovered that the XKSS has a non-original engine. I don't think there were even any bidders on it.
     
  14. Prancing 12

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    The car spent 14 minutes on the block; it was painful to watch.
     
  15. srslusso

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    Gooding's lot 53 the 365 GT 2+2 did she sell ? For how Much ?
    Any comments
     
  16. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Wrong timing here in NZ so couldn't watch more than last hour or so. I do know there is a market for XKSS in the mid teens but only for the best so if there was a non-original engine then that is the second black mark along with it being a D-Type for much of its life. Despite it being noted that the original XKSS parts were retained and refitted it cannot be afforded the same respect of a car that was never apart. So I wonder how much of Gooding claims that it is the best, most original XKSS was just auction puffery?
     
  17. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Watching RM feed for their sale, Fiat 8V Supersonic went to $1.25 net (1.375mil total against $1.4 - 1.6 million estimate) which was cheap but now the Bentley S1 DHC (estimate $700 - 900k) has sold at $1.54 million. I would take the Fiat any day, personal taste I guess
     
  18. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Sold 250k + comm ($275k)
     
  19. BO67

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    watching it too right now

    bentley 1.5mill ????? wooow

    1933 Rolls-Royce Phantom II Special Newmarket Permanent Sedan by Brewster
    1.125.000.-
    woow too
     
  20. T308

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    Summing Up so Far.... Hammer Price

    Bonhams Lot 129 1988 Ferrari Testarossa 78854 $125 - 145k No Reserve $73,000
    Bonhams Lot 138 2005 Ferrari 575M Superamerica 145099 $400 - 450k $340,000 No Sale
    Bonhams Lot 144 1955 Ferrari 250GT Alloy Pininfarina Coupe 0389GT $2.3 - 2.6 mil. $2,025,000
    Bonhams Lot 155 1990 Ferrari 348TS Challenge 86947 $60 - 90k No Reserve $40,000
    Bonhams Lot 167 1986 Ferrari 328GTS 64209 $80 - 100k No Reserve $60,000
    Gooding Lot 11 1969 Ferrari 206GT Dino 00332 $500 - 600k $425,000
    Gooding Lot 29 1990 Ferrari F40 87041 $1.3 - 1.6 mil. $1,350,000
    Gooding Lot 35 1969 Ferrari 365GTC 12325 $725 - 825k $600,000 No Sale
    Gooding Lot 40 1978 Ferrari 308GTB 26637 $150 - 180k No Reserve $115,000
    Gooding Lot 47 2004 Ferrari 360 Spider 138220 $140 - 160k No Reserve $100,000
    Gooding Lot 49 1989 Ferrari 328GTS 81966 $160 - 180k No Reserve $125,000
    Gooding Lot 53 1969 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 13047 $275 - 325k $250,000
    Gooding Lot 54 2007 Ferrari 599GTB Fiorano 152365 $700 - 800k $610,000 No Sale
    Gooding Lot 60 1988 Ferrari 328GTB 75593 $140 - 160k No Reserve $110,000
    Gooding Lot 65 1968 Ferrari 206GT Dino 00152 $750 - 900k $640,000 No Sale
    Gooding Lot 71 1973 Ferrari 246GTS 05846 $300 - 375k $290,000
    Gooding Lot 72 1987 Ferrari Testarossa 70383 $125 - 175k No Reserve $117,500
    Gooding Lot 73 2015 Ferrari La Ferrari 210482 $3.8 - 4.5 mil. $3,400,000 No Sale
    Gooding Lot 85 1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 107198 $80 - 100k No Reserve $70,000
    RM Lot 212 1998 Ferrari 550 Maranello 110686 $125 - 150k No Reserve
    RM Lot 218 1995 Ferrari F50 104220 $2.2 - 2.4 mil.
    RM Lot 226 2001 Ferrari 550 Barchetta 124295 $575 - 650k
    RM Lot 229 1974 Ferrari 246GTS 07798 $350 - 400k
    RM Lot 230 1977 Ferrari 308GTB 21167 $80 - 100k No Reserve
    RM Lot 241 1967 Ferrari 330GTC 10267 $650 - 750k
    RM Lot 247 1963 Ferrari 330GT America 2+2 5049GT $400 - 500k*
    RM Lot 254 1961 Ferrari 250GT SWB 2639GT $9 - 10 mil.
    RM Lot 263 1964 Ferrari 275GTB 06681 $1.8 - 2 mil. No Reserve
    RM Lot 265 1991 Ferrari Testarossa 87750 $275 - 400k
    RM Lot 269 1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Competizione 14115 $1.25 - 1.5 mil.*
    RM Lot 274 1972 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14585 $600 - 700k
    RM Lot 278 1950 Ferrari 166MM Touring Barchetta 0058M $8 - 10 mil.
     
  21. pnorell

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    Hammered at $250k - $275 all in - pretty strong for an ok example
     
  22. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Am i going deaf or is the volume on the RM live feed very lowwwww?
     
  23. nis1973

    nis1973 Formula Junior

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    Yep, the Fiat and the Aurelia Spider were probably the coolest cars in the collection. By the way, he bought the Fiat only two years ago for $1.8mm...
     
  24. MrRdStr

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    Prices include the buyers premium ?
     
  25. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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