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  1. Christian.Fr

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    someone have pitures of 512BB LM number 78 and 87?
     
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  3. tomgt

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    26683 engine 001
    29507 engine 002
    30559 engine 010
    31589 engine 023
    32129 engine 013
    32131 engine 015
    33647 engine 016
    35523 engine 020
    35527 engine 024
    38179 engine 027
    38181 engine 031
    44023 engine 039

    Can all these engineno's be confirmed with the buildsheets?
     
  4. tomgt

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    #130 Darthvader, Mar 8, 2008
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    About three years ago, I purchased a conversion BBLM, based on an original
    Ferrari Boxer chassis. It is a car who was owned by Lawrence Stroll,
    and built with the same parts that were used to build the original BBLM.
    When I visited Maranello, two years ago with the Ferrari Club of France, we
    had dinner at Bachelli - if I am not wrong - and they confirmed having built a
    conversion on original chassis.
    Anyway, I bought the car to have fun at the track, particularly at Club Events;
    the car fullfilled all my expectations - it is a different animal in a sea of 360s and
    430s - drives easily - I had a Lola T10 Mk III B and it was a handful - looks great,
    and sounds terrific. It is identical to an original, but of course it is not an original, and does
    not have any racing history.
    I knew when I bought it that the engine needed some work, and I paid accordingly.
    Last year the car went through and engine rebuild, and it is ready for fun again.
    Here a picture of the beast.
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  6. CornersWell

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    This was Neil Fairman's car. Thought Amenasce bought it.

    CW
     
  7. Darthvader

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    AMenasce is my son
     
  8. pgrootswagers

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    what's the serialnumber of this car???


    Peter
     
  9. tomgt

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    22255
     
  10. ClassicFerrari

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    Thak you for posting. Your car is gorgeous!
     
  11. CornersWell

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    Hello, well the R Liebhaber listing is correct. This is R Liebhaber :)
     
  12. CornersWell

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    See my note above re # 44023
     
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    Welcome! :)
     
  14. CornersWell

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    We have had nine years of incredibly wonderful driving experience with 44023, I am not quite sure how to append photo's to these reply's but if you send me an e mail ( rtl@liebhaber.net ) I would be more than happy to send along a number of recent photo's of the car which you can post if you like on this bblm site, it is a great drive and a super car. We are just thinking through the Classiche work, preliminary discussions with the SPA are under way. That should be a major help in sorting out the numbers puzle.

    Actually the factory constructed 32 vehicles, delivered 27 I understand and built 39 motors. Motors were serialize 0001 through 0039 and the BBLM chassis numbers were just pulled off the 512 line and so htere is no serialized connection with the chassis since the aggregation occured at the race shop and record transfers and inter communicatins appear to have been somewhat lax at that point in ferrari history.

    A great car and a fantastic drive considering its age.
     
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  16. tomgt

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    Series III cars are constructed from scratch I believe because the tubing is much lighter than production cars. Maybe other fchatters know it better.
     
  17. CornersWell

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    As far as we can tell, after much conversation with Ferrari SPA, the base chassis is a 512BB, all bodywork and the motor were provided by the race shop. We have been able to interchange many standard 512BB bits and pieces as we have rebuilt things resulting from bumps here and there as well as many basic motor components, we have however had to contract out cranks, fuel distribution, transmission components as well as all of the body components that we have nicked and bent in tracking the car. For example the rear bell housing was interchangeable with the Testarossa while the gear ratios required hand work in replacing the bits inside the bell housing. Classiche application will require SPA to get more specific and direct. Todd Morichi's car, I understand, is currently undergoing the Classiche authentification process and 44023 will be right behind.
     
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    authentification at the factory or in the US?
     
  19. CornersWell

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    At the Factory
     
  20. tomgt

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  22. Christian.Fr

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    yep! thank you.
     
  23. Christian.Fr

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    Poaw!
    incredible car...need to check all details of this car...did you have others pics?
     
  24. tomgt

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    #149 tomgt, Jul 14, 2008
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    I took this photo of 30559 chassisno. at Le Mans Classic this weekend. It LOOKS if the plate was cut out and welded in this chassis. Normally there are no welds around the stampings.
    What is the history if this car? Crashed at that particular spot? There was no original BBLM engine in the car.
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  25. Dr_ferrari

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    All the 512BBlm chassis numbers are like that. they all have a welded plate in which the vin is stamped. and as shown, it is only the last 5 numbers.

    regards, jim
     

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