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  1. 330 4HL

    330 4HL Formula 3

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  2. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    I remember this car. Hideous, but could be a nice bargain.

    I doubt it will go cheap, though.
     
  3. peterp

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    This car was discussed at length in a prior thread on Fchat. It would look much better in the original 4-headlight configuration IMO, but it was done in period and maybe somebody will appreciate it for what it is.
     
  4. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #5 simon klein, May 27, 2014
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    It's a bit like this well known Aussie car that had 'an incident',and was rebuilt like this for,I think,the current owner.
    Interestingly,this car was still on the for sale adverts when I was looking for my first Ferrari,in '06.
    I phoned him up and he said 'is that advert still there,I thought I pulled it ages ago,I've decided to hang on to it'

    Sorry about the crook pics,this was taken in a freezing Tassie trip,a couple of years ago,the camera actually failed about 30 shots afterwards.
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  5. 330 4HL

    330 4HL Formula 3

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    looks about 100x better than the Mecum Monster...
     
  6. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    #7 El Wayne, May 31, 2014
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    6537 seems to resurface every few years. I think we might finally be at a point where the market for these cars is strong enough that someone could buy it and return it to the original configuration. Let's hope so, anyway.
     
  7. Vincent Vangool

    Vincent Vangool Formula 3

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    #8 Vincent Vangool, May 31, 2014
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    It will be interesting to see what the new owner does with it. Have to wonder what will happen with period re-bodies as values rise and if owners will think is the cars true historic identity.

    It seems not long ago that people thought the two headlights were trash. Great to see that changing as I'm sure it will lead to much of what was once destroyed coming back together.

    Does anyone know when the re-body was done and why?
     
  8. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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  9. Vincent Vangool

    Vincent Vangool Formula 3

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    #10 Vincent Vangool, May 31, 2014
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    Thanks.

    Had read that thread awhile ago. Prob should of searched as I knew the answer existed somewhere in cyber space.
     
  10. peterp

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    From this post (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/136845297-post88.html) in the original thread, it looks like the grill inside the surround was originally black (or dark colored at least) rather than the chrome it is now. IMO, the design works a lot better as it was originally than it does now in chrome. It still looks a bit odd in the old photo, but the design makes more sense when the grill isn't emphasized. Although dark metallic blue is among my favorite colors for a 330, I also feel that the earlier Rubino-esque color worked better with this modified body.
     
  11. Crawler

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    It amazes me that somebody will advertise a car (let alone one for that kind of money) and include such crappy photos. In this case maybe it's deliberate...
     
  12. Simon1965

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    I have been exchanging emails with the owner. I'm sure they won't mind me sharing


    "A key thing when approaching its restoration in earnest will be to consider how to identify what was a Mecom era mechanical/electrical addition to the original and ensure that his era efforts are not removed (given his extraordinary global prominence in racing/Ferrari lineage). These parts would be non-Factory, likely race grade, and ones that you would wish to preserve. I would recommend your custodians be equally familiar not only with mid-60s Maranello works but also in American (GT40-ish) internals to help sort appropriately without damage.

    From an investment optic, I would caution against replacing his items with OEM grade Series I works as his efforts would make a flawless, restored piece more valuable in the market than a perfect, redone Series I. "
     
  13. gt4me

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    Just what I was thinking.
     
  14. peterp

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    Agree completely. If they just took photos outside instead of inside the garage it would look much better. If they reattached the front bumper and painted the inner grill black (leaving the chrome grill surround) as it was apparently originally intended (if that old photo is accurate), the car would present much better and there would be a much better chance of buyers connecting with the unique design. They've done a lot of nice work on the paint and interior, so it's very surprising they haven't taken time to present it better.
     
  15. Simon1965

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    Auction ended at USd 141 K so not too high. Did look as though there has been decent work done in terms of paint and interior. Will be interesting to see what happens to it now Ie will it get returned to a 4HL config ??
     
  16. Splitting Atoms

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    I hate to say it, but it wouldn't be long in my garage before the side grinder was spinning. I think the top edge of the nose off the hood could work with the lens covers, but I would have to build out the bottom of the nose like the Australian car.
     
  17. John Vardanian

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    This car can go of of two ways, it can either go back to its original elegant shape or end up in one of those freak-show car collections that Barry Meguire covers in his "Car Crazy" production. I hope it's not the latter. A nicely done 4HL can be a knock-out.

    john
     
  18. Splitting Atoms

    Splitting Atoms Formula 3

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    I agree that if you are going to do some "major" restoration, installing an original nose would be ideal.
     
  19. Vincent Vangool

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    Is the basic mindset that this modification detracts from the car historically and value wise?
     
  20. John Vardanian

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    I don't no about the major restoration part, Eric. I think it should be like if you want to lift your garage door you'd better fix the nose first.

    john
     
  21. John Vardanian

    John Vardanian F1 Rookie

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    Yes, it is my mindset that this modification makes a complete mockery of the master.

    john
     
  22. Simon1965

    Simon1965 Formula Junior

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    Yes I think so. The car has been changed And it's quite a radical change. From 4hl to enclosed 2hl. Take a look at the engine bay. Big changes in there as the radiator was modified and something big has changed if you had to move the oil filter location. Looks also like the bonnet was changed. So yes that change detracts from value. I'd bet money that the new owner will change back
     
  23. crinoid

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    It's disturbing to look at.
     
  24. Vincent Vangool

    Vincent Vangool Formula 3

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    I agree with the mockery.

    I just didn't know if in the end there was a place for it in a believe it or not historical context.

    Will be interesting to see if the old nose is saved if transformed to 4HL.
     

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