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Any interest in a Dino USA Club?

Discussion in '206/246' started by synchro, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. synchro

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    #1 synchro, Jan 7, 2020
    Is there any interest in starting a Dino USA Club with the goal hosting an annual trip, similar to Matthias Barts German Dino Club but in the USA?
     

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  2. rbsloan11

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    #2 rbsloan11, Jan 7, 2020
    yes!
     
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  3. 87testa

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    #3 87testa, Jan 7, 2020
    Include the Canadians
     
  4. 4CamGT

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    #4 4CamGT, Jan 8, 2020
    I think there should be one Dino club globally. A global Dino club with regions such as Europe, Japan, Asia, America, etc. Running a club is a lot of work and requires individuals that are passionate to do that. Most club members just go along for the ride. There was no one that put their hand up to continue the Dino Registry. A robust club needs to also archive their history and document the cars. “If” there was a global Dino club, would Ferrari endorse it? What Matthias has done was mostly the energy and passion from Matthias. I ask him what the potential is and should it build on what he’s doing.

    We have a diverse and smart group of individuals that populate and give valuable information to this forum. How do we harness this?
     
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  5. GIOTTO

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    #5 GIOTTO, Jan 8, 2020
    We had a Dino club in France in the 80's. The president of the club was a good friend and I know it was a huge job to organize the meetings and take care of the correspondence. There was no Internet and everything was done by mail. We had a newsletter called Dino~Scope three or four times a year and I wrote some articles. The club has changed with the arrival of a new president. It was a different person and there were fewer and fewer participants. Eventually the club disappeared. You have to be organized and have a lot of time to take care of a club like this... Not easy, bu a good idea.

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  6. Skippr1999

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    #6 Skippr1999, Jan 9, 2020
    yes
     
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  7. GermanDino

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    #7 GermanDino, Jan 10, 2020
    globally, that is a full time job….
    I think the USA should have a better organized Dino community. The great Grand Canyon meeting last year in November deserved more participants and the organizer was all over FChat!
    What a great event… thanks Scott!
    My private Dino register is way beyond what we had on the internet, the problem with the internet is: no discretion and that is what most of owners want...
     
  8. 4CamGT

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    #8 4CamGT, Jan 10, 2020
    I agree that the USA Dino Community needs to be better organized. The problem with the USA is that it is 50 countries as large as 50 countries! Everyone is so far apart location wise. There is no one like you here. In Europe, countries are centrally located and easily accessed for the most part. Beautiful roads, mountains and differing European cultures add to the experiences and connect the countries. In the US, it’s much more localized such as the western coastal route, the Rockies, etc. America has has a lot of flyover land with loooong straight roads in between. Not fun in a Dino.

    The research you have done on the Dino stands alone. No sense in overlapping that effort. Maybe one main club (Europe?) with regions that could be run ie USA West Coast, USA Mid-West and USA East Coast?
     
  9. synchro

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    #9 synchro, Jan 22, 2020
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    Thank you for attending, this was really fun and the group was the best I have led in 10 years.

    MATTHIAS BARTZ DATA IS BEST
    Fact: Only 40% of Dino owners attending The Dino Rally were on FerrariChat, most came because of Matthias Bartz personal email
    NOTE: 3 Dinos were not going to attend the FCA International Concours until after the registered for The Dino Rally. Stated another way, HALF of the FCA Concours Dino class attended the Concours because they registered with The Dino Rally first.

    NO USA FCA INTEREST IN DINO
    The Dino is a Model Type and the USA FCA is strictly based by Region. MB has seen my emails to the FCA and it is like a deer in the headlights asking to contact all USA Dino owners.
    The FCA website has no way to contact other Dino members and the FCA will not permit any Dino article, event ad, or trip summary unless it is an FCA event.


    Freeman is speaking sensibility.
    Matthias needs to grow the Dino Club into an International Club (The rest of the world is begging you please) and let each country host an event.

    MB, Your wonderful event in Maranello took much of your Dino energy and you were fatigued after July 2018. That is why I suggested that you allow me to host the 2019 Grand Canyon event's structure so you can concentrate on interacting with the humans.
    Be our celebrity. You blew away Jihl and TDK when you chatted with them, looked up their Dino and revealed it was one of 3 delivered with a Silver removable GTS roof.
    That kind of Dino interaction was happening all weekend because Matthias had time to interact


    CONCLUSION
    Contact, data and interaction all sum it up. The Dino Club needs to go Global


    Scott
     
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  10. 4CamGT

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    #10 4CamGT, Jan 22, 2020

    Scott, thank you for your comments! I can only imagine Matthias is still overwhelmed with the event in Maranello and wants to focus on his personal Dino projects. Ferrari, from what I’ve heard can be difficult to deal with. I would love a global Dino club that is specific to the Dino marque (including Fiat Dinos, Dino engined race cars, 308GT4 and Stratos). Getting the club rights to use the logos is important. It takes a lot of time, persistence, and personal resources to be successful. It also takes professional talents such as legal, organizational, creative, treasury, boutique, etc etc. I, for instance limit myself to just the odd blogs on F-Chat and some personal emails. Those that take on the responsibilities, I have a lot of respect for. In some ways, it’s a thankless role where others feel entitled and insensitive to the efforts of those who accept the responsibilities.

    Freeman
     
  11. 4CamGT

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    #11 4CamGT, Jan 22, 2020

    Also....if a Dino vendor were to put the power behind something like this, it would benefit them as well as the club members. Club member numbers would have to all be even numbers!
     
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  12. synchro

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    #12 synchro, May 27, 2020
    The FCA have clearly stated they have no interest in a Dino Club USA or allowing anyone to ask them to contact all Dino Owners in their database to invite to a Dino event.

    I'm in my 27th year in both Ferrari clubs so after the FCA stopped responding to my calls and emails, I approached the Ferrari Owner's Club USA. The FOC club is all about driving and holds only one Concours so their focus is completely about cars in motion. My impression is that they'll allow us to do what we want as long as we put cars on the road and spread enthusiasm.

    Again, the FCA is a Regional Club with a National headquarters of volunteers that direct the Regions to do activities. Nationals never produces an event solely themselves, it is always done through a Region adding a number of political layers.

    Contrast this with The FOC , which is one unit, like the Ferrari Club of Germany, and serves the membership with structure but encourages activities by Dino
     
  13. jag312

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    #13 jag312, Jun 3, 2020
    I would be interested in a US Dino club.
     
  14. Sal Manzur

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    #14 Sal Manzur, Jun 6, 2020
    I would be interested as well but only
    Able to attend one or two events per year.
    I have a four year old boy who keeps me busy
     
  15. Jamie H

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    #15 Jamie H, Jun 28, 2020
    I would be interested in a Dino club as well. I would also interested in managing the Canadian chapter.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  16. synchro

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    #16 synchro, Jul 2, 2020
    Nailed it - this is exactly our intention!

    A 3 day annual Dino meet with the intention of gathering Dinophiles together for socializing, a Rally, and a Concours all set in a location with photo opportunities commensurate with the beauty of a Dino. Not too different than one of Matthias' EU Dino Club DE trips over the last 16 years.

    In 1986, the Maserati club that I was a member of decided to add a concours event to our annual 3 day meet and move it from N Lake Tahoe to Monterey.
    This ended up being the grass roots movement of what eventually became Concours Italiano.
    In the same way, I could see the purity and strength of Dino ownership fueling the same sort of meet and it growing organically.

    The USA Ferrari Owner's Club is very agreeable to our goals and is extending a helping hand
     

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  17. DinoParts, Stefan

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    #17 DinoParts, Stefan, Jul 2, 2020
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    I'm happy to assist, Freeman.
    Just want to remark that I have seen clubs loose their spirit when comercial interest was mixed into the structure.
     

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