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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by DaveC20853, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. DaveC20853

    DaveC20853 Karting

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  2. tonykalil

    tonykalil Karting

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    This was a body that my father got from Greg Jones. Greg had removed the body from the chassis and sent it to Allegretti to have a GTO built. My dad did not want the body to go to the scrapyard, so we put it on a mid 80's Impala chassis, with a 455 out of a buddy's 69 Firebird.

    So in summary, I think it would be difficult to put it back to original, considering that the chassis is currently not with the car.
     
  3. doctorj!

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    So basically its a kit car.
     
  4. tonykalil

    tonykalil Karting

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    I am not aware of any kits that include a factory Italian body, so I would not ever call it a kit car.

    I would simply ackowledge that it a factory PF Coupe body that was rescued from the scrapyard, and assembled into a running and driving vehicle with a non-correct chassis and running gear.

    I am sure there is an unloved category for it, but I doubt that the category is kit car.

    Regards
     
  5. TheMayor

    TheMayor Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Take off another grand for that stupid shield on the side....
     
  6. 2000 CVPI

    2000 CVPI Karting

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    Olds 455? Talk about having the face not match the windpipes...
     
  7. doctorj!

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    Why not put at least a corvette engine though? At least that would be half way to a Ferrari. An olds engine would be closer to what....10%?
     
  8. Info serious buyers are not getting. Can you imagine having it show up on the transporter & the driver say's "dude if you want to change that 10 bolt, I gotta 12 bolt posi".

    Still neat, and it's nice your Dad saved it from scrap.
     
  9. tonykalil

    tonykalil Karting

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    Thanks EarlyCat,

    I am glad too that it was saved from the scrapyard, and it was a fun project.

    The reason for the mismatch of parts, was simply, that they were laying around underfoot at the time. As I have said in other posts, it got 54 Dodge tailights, the 455, 69 Camaro Seats, and the Fog Lights out of my dads RollBack truck.

    I don't think any amount of Corvette parts could make it 1/2 or close to a Ferrari.

    And who knows? If we had cut up a Corvette for donor parts, there might have been some very upset Corvette enthusiasts that complained that we destroyed a Corvette to make it :)
     
  10. olinde

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    Are the wheels original (Borrani)? They look a little weird to me, thus the question.
     
  11. jm3

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    They look like "Tru-Spokes" to me. That is a brand name from the 70s and 80s


    What's the reserve?
     
  12. mattymouse33

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    Nice that it was saved. Who knows what the future holds for the car.
     
  13. tonykalil

    tonykalil Karting

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    (They look like "Tru-Spokes" to me. That is a brand name from the 70s and 80s)


    Correct! Somebody knows their 80s Cadillac parts.

    Good spot...
     
  14. targanero

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    So according to the DMV this is a mid-80s impala?
     
  15. tonykalil

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    I think someone on FChat once told me that a new ID had been issued to the car utilizing part of the original 250 VIN with an extra letter or number.

    The chassis was from our 84 or 85 Impala 2 door (with the bevelled rear window) with a V6 that my father bought for his employees to drive. The Impala got rear ended, so my father cut the body off and used the chassis. It was extensively modified to fit under the PF body. There were no numbers on the chassis that would have made it into the PF, so I doubt the DMV has any record of the underlying Impala bits.

    As far as the DMV is concerned, I am guessing that somebody issued a new ID number that suits the car's intended guise, much like Cobra kit cars are registered as 65 Fords.
     
  16. m5guy

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    Resist the urge Jay!
     
  17. richardowen

    richardowen Formula Junior

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    Maybe the car can be brought back together. Where is this GTO replica?
     
  18. wingfeather

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    I am highly interested, as ideally my next Ferrari shall be vintage, but of course I do not have $500k or anywhere near that.

    The guy claims to have a "Texas title", but after reading the comments above I should ask him if it's a Ferrari title or an Impala???

    Another concern is that he links to his site which lists cars for sale, but if you examine the photos they are taken in Europe and all cars have European license plates... kind of suspicious.
     
  19. huligan

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    i also found that supposedly the same seller jakob_elena already sold the car in Sept of 2008 to a buyer 123_fedanmani for $75k :

    http://media.collectorcarpricetracker.com/auction_data/2008/9/14/300256825213/300256825213.pdf

    i do not know how much more info i would be allowed to post without getting "in trouble" but it is safe to say after reading all this here that it is highly unlikely that the car could be restored even if you have a drivetrain sitting there ready to go.
    (which was the claim in the previous auction in 08 and no mention about the chassis not being original - i quote "This 250GT is now equipped with a powerful, american 8 cylinder engine and auto transmission which operate very well Aside from this, this car is mostly original and could quite easily (if you have the engine-tranny) be converted back to a correct 250GT.")

    and it is also very probable that the entire auction might be a scam.
     

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