And then the detailer backed into my Dino

I hereby rescind my previous remarks. Time to call your lawyer.

Jack

 

Just a note to remind all that the vehicle that you own is a "collector car" in a market where service records and originality are highly valued. There does not seem to be any real measureable difference in the auction price of a well maintained (documented) original Dino that may be preped to score 90 or so in judging and a fresh restoration where the Dino scores 95 - 100. I believe that the "excellent" condition of the original paint adds to the value of the vehicle rather than depreciates its value.

Anything less that a total repaint to the standards of "restoration quality" would surely lower the value of the vehicle.

Best wishes

 

I agree - modern painting techniques matched with a seasoned paint/body man can facilitate a sectional repair so that no judge could tell.

For example,
I once had Master Painter, Bo Pirkle, paint my spare set of Dino Campy wheels and he had to put the work off for a few days due to a delay (actually, there were several delays, but I didn't need the spare set fast plus I've always found it beneficial to be flexible when dealing with paint/body guys).

In any case, this delay was due to an immediate need by a gentleman at the Ferrari meet (Hershey, I think) that had track raced his car and bumped a fender but needed to have it repaired prior to the concourse in two days. Bo was flown up to the event, did an all day/night repair including panel and paint. The work was so good that this resulted in the gentleman owner's Ferrari winning the concours class event.

 

I agree. Although a really good painter may be able to make the repair look identical to the rest of the body now, I think after a year or two, one could tell where the car had been repainted.

 

dave, you will prevail...just wait it out. after two weeks of the folder sitting on the adjusters desk...he will settle. better yet, if he does not...tell him to come get the car as a total loss and to find you a suitable replacment. bluffing of course, that will never happen as the ins. cos are not in the business of buying, selling and locating cars. get three estimates of dinos values from experts and send it to the ins co. see how they like you now!!!

and by the way, when you do get a full respray, make sure the car is properly disassembled and all screws, nuts and bolts are catalogued. just insures the the car goes back together w/ accuracy.

 

All of it.

 

Come to think of it, I'd like to get my whole car repainted...does your detailer ever get down to DC? (I've even got a few spare headlight trim rings ready to go)

 

Would a "patch" have reduced the value of the car by the estimated cost of the entire vehicle being repainted......some $20-25K perhaps ? That's almost 25%-35% of the value of the car.

Of course not. To suggest otherwise is ridiculious and I am glad that no one has.

If you plan to keep the car until you are gone.....then the value was never diminished in the first place nor would it have been during your tenure as owner because the car was never to be sold based on your statements....therefore no loss occured....nor was a loss planned based on your statements.

If I was insured with this company and read this thread I'd be all over them to not pay up for any more than a patch......it's frivilous and vexatious cases like this that cause all our rates to go up.

Sorry Dave.......gotta take the other side here on this one. Insurance is for repairs........not restorations.

 

Please don't shoot the messenger for this one, but if I worked for the insurance company I would seriously have to consider totaling this car before dropping $25K on fixing relatively minor damage like this.

What's an excellent (but not Concours quality) Dino going for these days? Around $90K? I'd be tempted to give you a $90K check, do a very very good repair for around $5K and sell the car for $80K. I just don't see a correctly done repair with the paint blended causing more than $5K - $10K in diminished value, particularly since there is plenty of documentation that the damage is superficial. Assuming the insurance company would pop for the $5K or so to do it right, they could save themselves $10K - $15K.

Of course, they would have to find some way of avoiding a salvage designation on the title, but that could be easily done by working with an "independent" restorer to handle the "purchase" of the car from you.

 

Just like a Lib. Expecting somebody else to pay for it!

Just kidding. I'm sure that it will look sweet.

Dale

 

is it going to stay red?

 

Yay! See everybody, insurance companies are not evil.

Sometimes.

Oh, and you better take and post at least as many, if not more pictures than JG takes of 0846 and 002C

 

Just call Tom S, he'll get you what you need. Just don't tell him where your car is or he'll come by and take all the loose bits.

Good Luck,

Art S.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe I've been in this hobby too long...

 

Dave - you deserve the best, so I'm glad to see the shop owner is qualified to give you just that.