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A (shotgun) marriage proposal between exotic car makers and electric car makers...

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  1. bitzman

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    EDITORIAL A Shotgun Marriage Proposal



    For you newcomers (born after 2000) you might not know the old American phrase "shotgun marriage." That' when a young man has been instrumental in creating an offspring but it so happens he's not the marrying kind. That's when Granpa gets the 12 gauge off its resting place over the mantel and. while loading it, starts trying to convince the lad of the error of his ways. Welcoming him to the family y'might say.
    So it is that I see a forced marriage coming up between the exotic car industry and the electric car industry as a good thing.
    Exotic car makers, let's face it, are basically Nero fiddling on the roof while Rome burns. Sweet music, truly, but when they stop playing, there will be a landscape of ashes where their industry was, (Compare say the percentage growth of Tesla to Lamborghini over the last ten years... )
    Electric cars started out with stubby ugly cars that did nothing to inspire car lovers.
    Exotic car makers make cars whose styling is to die for but internal combustion is seeing more warning signs every day that powerplant wise, they re reaching the end of the road.

    THE SOLUTION
    Exotic car makers should start to court electric auto makers and get assignments to create platforms, interiors, and body shells for electric car makers. This already happened. in the early days of Tesla, they had the drive train planned but but needed a chassis and a body. The Tesla people were at a convention when they met the Lotus people. The Lotus people, you gotta understand, had been approached before with the idea of someone using their chassis and body for a new propulsion unit. Most proposers never showed. So they invited the Tesla folks to come on over to Bethel and, whaddya know, they showed up. Recalls Martin Eberhard (a Tesla co-founder) on a Tesla website "We wanted the first Tesla car to handle like a proper sportscar, so we approached Lotus Cars, known to make the finest-handling sportscar on the road. (Marc and I cornered Roger Becker at the 2004 LA Auto Show and convinced him that Tesla was worthy of consideration.) Since our first meeting with Roger Becker, Tesla has built a strong, friendly relationship with the team at Lotus, focused primarily on bringing a great new sportscar to the market quickly and efficiently."
    So it was that the first Tesla, a sports car had a Lotus chassis and body.

    OLDIES BUT GOODIES
    It's a dated phrase used by DJ's to announce an upcoming record that is old but was worth saving.
    I say when Prince Harry and his American bride drove off on their honeymoon in a Jaguar E-type that had been converted to electric power, that was the beginning of the movement as far as the public saw. I think companies like Lamborghini should offer say the Miura and Countach and Espada as electric car designs to other automakers looking to jazz up their offerings.Rolls Royce ditto with the Cloud, Mercedes with the '50s gullwing.
    And these same companies buying these designs could also look in the rejected design files of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, etc. and pull out some designs that were, and are, too good to throw away. I am not saying all of an electric car companies' designs should be retro I'm saying their designs would get more attention of say one or two models a year were retro. There are easily ten Chinese electric car makers but can you name any of them? But what if one, with permission, were making an electric Miura using a classic design under license? Then you would know the name. Because you can't afford a real Miura at roughly a million) but you might an electrified copy.
    A case in point is Xpeng who has been showing at auto shows a limited-edition version of its P7 electric sedan fitted with Lamborghini-style "wing" doors. The P7 Wing, as it's called, will be available in both high-performance and super-long-range trims for a limited time. The reason you haven't heard of it is, except for the Lambo doors, it's so-so styling, But if it were The P7Wing Miura" then I'd say you would look at it. Helps both companies. (Wasn't it Al Capone who said "Why steal the hubcaps when you can steal the whole car?)
    I can already hear the purists whining and saying "But wait minute--aren't you trashing a legend? Going against all that made this brand famous?" Technically, there is an argument for that, but I put that argument in the same category of camera film vs. digital. At car events, I occasionally run across young photographers stlll shooting film who try to give me a spiel on how Ansel Adams used film and how great it was and I say if Ansel Adams were alive today, out in front of his house would be a garbage can of film cameras.(Never mind how I could go on about how he sometimes manipulated a single print for nine hours in printing to get effects --he told me about this personally. Today you could get the same effects in a few seconds with Photoshop).
    As for events like Pebble Beach, I say this would be the way to ease these cars in, each retro-styled one could be welcomed with a display . Maybe even parked alongside an original.
    Am I personally in on this changeover to new technology? Not hardly. I am personally occupied in two antique professions--thoroughbred horse breeding, an activity that pre-dates electricity by hundreds of years. And oil painting, using naught but oil, canvas and a brush. I just changed from a flip phone to a modern phone (Samsung AO1). I'm fighting it every step of the way but know it is the way to go.
    I drive an internal combustion car but, if I lived where I could plug in to re-charge, I would have already gone electric.
    And so it is. We've got two industries, one surviving on nostalgia and the other mechanically adept but lacking charisma. If we could just have this shotgun marriage...That will keep them both in business and advance public acceptance of electric cars.
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  2. Bas

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    Erm. Yeah no.

    There are a huge amount of us that have zero interest in electric cars. Not because we think they're ugly or something, but they're lacking something: An engine. Specifically an engine that produces a nice noise or a particular quick that makes driving in a certain way exciting.

    An electric engine will never, ever accomplish this.

    Something could look like a 250 GT SWB Comp, F40, 550 Maranello or Pagani Zonda, but if the only drive train is electric, I don't give a **** how well it's build or how fast it is. I'm simply not interested.

    With many governments effectively ruling out the sale of new ICE cars, whilst I find it very sad...kind of so be it. So long as I can still buy 2nd hand ICE cars and drive them...Personally I think most cars have reached their peak already anyways, Ferrari's V8 platform I lost interest after the sublime Speciale (I like the F8 and Pista, but don't love them), and their V12 future likely will be hybrid (I can live with that), so long it stays away from turbo, but I think they've reached their peak with the 812 GTS (and soon VS).

    I think a Porsche Taycan ST looks great but no thanks. I'd rather have the slower, and worse, Porsche Panamera turbo S Hybrid ST (in that class).
     
  3. Schultz

    Schultz Karting

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    Isn't the average miles of driven something like 40 a day? Electric cars are already there for those regular commuters.

    I think most commuters would appreciate the brisk low speed acceleration, highly reduced/cheaper maintenance, and quietness of an electric car.

    Companies are focusing on using less rare earth metals to produce the batteries and electric car technology is advancing quick. Also the move to 48 Volt electric systems will be beneficial for all.
     

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