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330 P2-3 #0828 for sale

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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Very interesting, would someone like to ask Talacrest how much?????


    Ferrari 330 P2 -3 for sale: Anamera

    History as given by vendor

    1965. Born as a 275 P2 Spyder and destined to be a SEFAC (Ferrari Factory Team) car.

    10 April 1965. Le Mans Test. See Emotion Ferrari by Maurice Louche p.353.

    25 April 1965.Monza 1000 kms, John Surtees/Ludovico Scarfiotti, #60. 2nd OA.

    9 May 1965. Targa Florio, Nino Vaccarella/Lorenzo Bandini, #198. 1st OA.Completed in 7h 1'12''. Average speed of 102.562 kph. Four Mins ahead of 2nd placed Porsche of Davis/Mitter. Also won
    fastest lap at 39'21'' averaging 109.784 kph.
    See Ferrarissima 9, p46:

    Received Ferrari Factory upgrade to 330 4 litre motor. Thus becoming a 330 P2.

    23 May 1965. Nurburgring 1000 kms, John Surtees/Ludovico Scarfiotti, #1. 1st OA. 44 laps took 6h 53'05''. See Emotion Ferrari by Maurice Louche p.363.
    19 June 1965. Le Mans 24 hrs, John Surtees/Ludovico Scarfiotti, #19. DNF. Gearbox failure in 17th hour.

    Received Ferrari Factory upgrade to 365 4.4 litre motor. Body also upgraded to P2/3 style. Thus becoming a 365 P2/3.

    January 1966. Sold by Ferrari Factory to Garage Franorchamps. Car repainted yellow.
    January/February 1966. Flown by Sabena Airlines to USA for Daytona.
    5 February 1966. Daytona 24 Hrs, Gerald Langlois van Ophem/Lucien Bianchi, #25. DNF.
    2/3 April 1966. Le Mans Test, Jean 'Beurlys' Blaton/Leon Dernier, #19. See Emotion Ferrari by Maurice Louche p.377.
    25 April 1966. Monza 1000 Kms, Jean 'Beurlys' Blaton/Lucien Bianchi, #11. DNF.
    22 May 1966. Spa 1000 Kms, Jean 'Beurlys' Blaton/Lucien Bianchi, #8. DNF.
    18/19 June 1966. Le Mans 24 Hrs, Pierre Dumay/Jean 'Beurlys' Blaton, #17. DNF. See Emotion Ferrari by Maurice Louche p.396.
    11 September 1966. Coupes Avenir, Zolder, Leon Dernier, #111. 2nd OA.
    9 October 1966. Salon Cup, Monthlery, Lucien Bianchi. 2nd OA.
    16 October 1966. Paris 1000 Kms, Monthlery, M. Bianchi/Lucien Bianchi, #30. DNF.
    5 November 1966. South African GP, Kyalami (9 hrs ?) Willy Mairesse/Jean 'Beurlys' Blaton. #4. DNF.
    Sold, allegedly to an Italian in Milan.

    Rebodied to 330 P3 Spyder configuration. Presumably by Drogo.

    8-10 September 1967. Seen and photographed by Marcel Massini during The Racing Car Show, held behind the pits at Monza during that years Italian F1 GP. #1.

    23-25 September 1968. Monza 1000 Kms, Antonio Finiguerra/Pierre de Siebenthal/Pianta under the Bormio Corse banner, #7.
    Practice time of 3m.21.4s which would have placed it 21st on the grid. Motoring News reported as follows: "The P2 Ferrari had a dreadful misfire, and it smelt as though the alleged 3 litre LM
    engine was passing neat petrol through the exhaust ports; it wasn't at all competitive, anyway, and did not start the race."
    And Patrick McNally in Autosport wrote: "The only Ferrari prototype to appear was Antonio Finiguerra's P2 which had P4 bodywork and was said to have a 275LM engine stroked down to 3 litres - virtually the old 2993cc GTO power unit with single cam on each bank."
    Another source, Racing Sports Cars - Home Page, says it was a DNS due to a fire in practice.
    The car was certainly entered in Group 6, 2 to 3 Litre Class.
    Car pictured in 1000 KM Monza by Andrea Curami.

    1968 ? Sold to Gaetano Tortora, Aix-en-Provence, France.
    1972. Sold to Jean-Claude Bajol.
    September 1972. At Mas du Clos with JC Bajol.
    1981. Sold to Albert Uderzo.
    Restored. Just mechanically ? By Sport Auto/Diena & Silingardi.
    Late 1981. Crashed by Uderzo at Imola. Car also turned over and caught fire.
    Damaged car seen and photographed back at Diena & Silingardi, Modena, by Marcel Massini

    1982 - Fabrizio Violati
    1982-87 - Rebuilt by Allegretti, I & Diena & Silingardi, Modena, Italy
    11th August 1988 Oldtimer GP Nurburgring, Driven by Fabrizio Violati, #1
    4th August 1989 Oldtimer GP Nurburgring, Driven by Fabrizio Violati, #437
    1st December 1990 displayed in Violati's "Collezione Maranello Rosso", San Marino
    26th September 1992 FF40 International Ferrari Concours, Brussels

    We also have the original French road plates for this car - when it was owned by Jean-Claude Bajol.
     
  2. GTE

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    the car looks like a weird blend between a P2 and a P3. Can't say that I like it.

    Apparently it had the 330 P3 (presumably Drogo)-body when it crashed at Imola in 1981. Was it rebuilt exactly like that?
     
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    whats next to it? 0856?
     
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  6. gt4me

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    Lottery ticket tommorow.
     
  7. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Looks a little odd but still a fairly awesome bit a kit...... A lovely old motor, just one lady owner who only drove it on Sundays to church and never ever crashed, guv'nor.
     
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    Also see my NEW thread on #0818. One amongst the pigeons
     
  9. Birel

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    Fifteen million British pounds, PLUS VAT !!
     
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    A bargain, I wonder if they have two :)
     
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    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
  12. 250P

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    I doubt VAT is payable on the £15m price to anyone buying the car to keep it in the EU?
     
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    I noticed that all cars coming from Violati collection in the catalogues had the mention that VAT would have to be paid if they stay in the EU. In fact, and I just checked, San Marino is not part of the European Union, so a car exported from there would have to pay VAT to remain in the EU as the cars were clearly owned by a San Marino entity ( and may be registered there?).
     
  14. 8-Ball

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    Two? This isn't 0818, you know. ;)
     
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    Ok thanks. As the car is historic (etc) no import tax is due and the vat rate is 5% in the UK. Not sure for other territories.
     
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    And once registered in the UK, it would then have free circulation/tax-paid status within the whole of the EU.
     
  17. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Oh ha ha, I could always get Ferrari classiche to build me a replica of something ala 0818, 5899 or any number of cars and make it a matching pair. Touche, perhaps but likely to be true.
     
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    Owning a partly home built replica of a 250 California I can safely say, go for it and live with it.I make no effort to conceal what my car is and it still is a challenge to drive and a treat to look at. Don't worry I have heard all the derogatory comments.Actually about the best I can hope for is"Oh it's a Ferris Bueller car" Well I don't have $9-$11 million in the bank and it was an interesting project to build. But trust me if Classiche or any one of those and often very good, repro shops build you one it won't be cheap and i will never be part of a "matching pair". tongascrew
     
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  20. Marcel Massini

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    And finally certified by Classiche.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    Merci Marcel !
     
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    E="etienne, post: 146654473, member: 28920"]I see today the pictures of the new exhibition at the Maranello museum, called "90 years".
    http://www.finecars.cc/fr/editorial/article/news/ferrari-museum-celebrates-scuderia-ferraris-landmark-anniversary-with-the-90-years-exhibition/index.html?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[backPid]=226&cHash=98e4c43540
    Photo 13/21 shows a yellow spider not identified. Is it 0828, back in its 365 P2 / 3 configuration of Ecurie Francorchamps ?[/QUOTE]
     
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  23. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    I wonder who owns #0828 post Violatti........
     
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    ....... and see other recent photos of the car !
     
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