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  1. Albert-LP

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    sometimes rare doesn't mean automatically desired: Mondial 8 and Dino 208 GT4 are rare, but not so much desired. This said, if you like prugna color, go for it: but maybe better forgetting about the rare issue and consider its value as every other common color, as that prugna (very likely) won't add much to car value.

    Then I have to say that a well kept or well restored 308 looks great in every color, prugna included.

    ciao
     
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  2. nerofer

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    Interesting article, but unfortunately: "sorry, wrong numbers". The usual errors about:
    - the production numbers of Vetroresinas: the true figure is 808, not 712 (the history of the confusion is well known: respected historian Gerald Roush wrote an article saying that the figure guiven by the factory of 808 was wrong, and that he calculated the totals and found only 712; unfortunately, he made a confusion regrding the total of RHD cars, confusion that he confessed and corrected, but the harm was done and remain to this day)
    - the weight of the Vetroresina which is not "250 lbs" less than the steel cars, but only "50 lbs" less. Even the factory knows this, and knew it from the start, as the offcial homologation document of the car with the italian Ministry of transportation in 1975 quotes the actual and correct weight at 1245 kilos.

    Rgds
     
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  3. Albert-LP

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    That's correct: not even the entire iron body weights 250 lbs… and fiberglass is not made by air… :D

    The 308 GTB has aluminum and glass parts also on the cars with steel body...

    Weight difference between glass and steel body GTB is more or less 20 kg

    This is called "repeating wrong news without knowing anything" (in one word: stupid).

    ciao
     
  4. johnk...

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    According to Ferrari of South Bay between 83 and 85 only 38 GTB QVs were produced for the US market. According to another source I have, 29 were produced in 85 alone. I personally have trouble reconciling those tow number. Doesn't make sense for only 9 to be produced for 83 and 84.
     
  5. nerofer

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    The topic of the US GTBs QVs is a well known difficult matter (there are others). As cross-checking the figures is almost impossible, we will probably never know for sure.

    Rgds
     
  6. johnk...

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    Agreed. All I really know is that I bought one in 85 and I'm not letting it go any time soon. :)
     
  7. Banzairacer

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    Done. Check in 5 minutes.
     
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  9. Jeff Kennedy

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    A friend who was a general manager at a major US dealer in the 308 period told me about his philosophy of ordering inventory cars. He ordered red/tan or red/black. Most clients who wanted another color would settle for the standard red. If he had a client that was adamant about a different color he could trade a red car with another dealer because that dealer knew that they could always sell a red car. But, the opposite was not true, a dealer trying to have a red car had great difficulty trading out their off color car. My friend went on to say that back then Ferrari North America would sometimes include an unordered off color car in their shipment to the dealer.

    Do remember that this was during the Magnum PI period. Pre that TV show there had been more assortment of Ferraris being bought but with that show so many of the buyers wanted to be Tom Sellack.

    There are rarer colors than Prugna. The greens and gold are seen even less often.

    Owner of Prugna/crema 54573. When I was looking to acquire a 308 QV only an off color was desired and any rosso corsa would not even be considered.
     
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  10. miketuason

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    Here’s a question, instead of trying to figure out how many 308 were built in ten year, how many in certain colors, how many Euro vs US, how many made in LHD vs RHD, etc... The question I like to ask is how many were wrecked, burned, gutted out for parts, or just out of commission? I think this will roughly give us an idea how many are left out there, anyway it’s just a thought.
     
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  11. nerofer

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    The million dollar question, dear Mike...attrition is the unknown factor: nobody knows, except that some of the lot were driven hard, or carelessly, and died of their nice death ("elles sont mortes de leur belle mort" as the saying goes in French...)
    Rgds
     
  12. 308 milano

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    #37 308 milano, Feb 28, 2020
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    I proposed starting a thread about this couple of years ago and was shouted down as being Morbid/ disrespectful. Personally I think Everyone would be interested but should have a few set ground rules. Such as Actual Vin number for one.
     
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  13. Thomas Magnum

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    We've got a few dead Euro QVs identified in https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/euro-qvs-in-north-america.433007/
     
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