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"250 GTO:" Drogo rebody mystery

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  1. VisualHomage

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    #1 VisualHomage, Jun 18, 2012
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    Some of Drogo's designs look absolutely fantastic. So where do we look to find out if we guessed correctly?
     
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    Carburetor setup?
     
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    #4 VisualHomage, Jun 18, 2012
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    Agree.

    And that is the mystery: where do you look to identify the answer to: What gives this Ferrari away as not being a re-bodied GTO? When you guess correctly I will tell you.
     
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    That was my best guess but that is not the visually identifying trait.

    For readers in general, remember the body itself can be anything. It is the chassis and serial number that determines the car as being a real Ferrari. And a real Ferrari this is --but it is not a GTO. How can you tell it is not a GTO by visual-only discernment?
     
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    Well, the 6 pot instead of 12 is obvious. What about the c/n 2493GT identifying the car as a 250 GTE and dating it to 1960 and the first 250 GTO wasn't built until the end of 1961?
     
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    While not overly familar with the smalest details of real GTO's at first glance the side vents seem wrong and the entire windsheild/door and window frame/roof area does not look right. Windsheild seems to flat and wide, door window frame/roof geometry seems off as well. And fenders near bottom of window don't seem to dip enough.

    Novice guess....
     
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    Good guesses but this car is a V12. 3 deuces can be made operative on a Ferrari V12. So that is not a solid visual cue to set it apart as being a non-GTO chassis.
     
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    Remember, the body can be anything as long as the chassis is created as a GTO, marked with a GTO SN#. How can you tell this is not a GTO chassis from the photo? You CAN tell, just keep looking.
     
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    Is the longer wheelbase of the 250 GTE evident behind the door or is it obvious in the body that car has a wet sump?
     
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    It retains the 250 GTE wheelbase? This is the only other thing I can think of, lol.
     
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    The wheelbase is longer but you cannot see that per se, but go with wet sump...... and then what happens with that setup versus a dry sump.....
     
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    yes it drove me nuts trying to figure it out..... go with the sump setup as a major clue ...
     
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    Are we saying that the perspex bonnet bulge is required because the engine is sitting higher than a GTO because it is a wet sump?

    Pete
     
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    Is the spare wheel where the oil tank would be on the GTO?
     
  16. VisualHomage

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    BINGO :)
     
  17. miurasv

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    Err. A GTO has a bonnet bulge.
     
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    Yes but he got the "engine is sitting higher" part exactly correct. A GTO's carbs would not be sitting that high in the bulge.
     
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    Well, I got the wheelbase and wet sump exactly correct first so I declare myself the winner. Lol.
     
  20. VisualHomage

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    Yes, you were on the right track, so close but .....
     
  21. miurasv

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    The story of my life, alas!!! Lol.
     
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    If I'm not home when you deliver my prize, please lock the Ferrari in my driveway and put the keys in the clothes drier you will find in our laundry (entrance via back of the house). Don't worry about our dogs they won't hurt you ... labradors.

    Thanks
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    The nose is completely wrong, before you even get to the engine, squared off, too high and too short never mind the side vents being too square.
     
  24. VisualHomage

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    10/4 will do :)
     
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    Remember, rebodies on non-native Ferrari chassis can look like anything ;)
     

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