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1999 or euro headers on US 360

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  1. eskanday

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    Hi guys, I have 2003 F360 US model with 12k miles. I would like at one point to get rid of the stock headers with precat to prevent possible headache in the future.
    Anybody installed 1999 headers or euro headers as they are stock and without precat? Would they work? Do they cause a CEL? And how to manage the O2 rail that comes with the US cars after 1999?
     
  2. 360trev

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    On later us cars than 1999 they will trigger a CEL unless you get the codes disabled. An ecu reflash is required. Search Ferrari SAK tool for more information. Lots of posts about it.
     
  3. eskanday

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    It is amazing how limited the options we have to solve this issue. I'm aware of Tubi and fabspeed headers beside stock used Ferrari that still has the same problem. Am I missing any other option that get rid off of the precat and does not cause a CEL?
    Thanks
     
  4. one4torque

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    Some have success w the little mini o2 sensor cats extenders. I’ll try these 1st. Then just get the tune if I get cel.
     
  5. BrettC

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    My extenders worked fine.
     
  6. Some Guy in the sky

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    Are the euro headers different than the 1999?
     
  7. eskanday

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    Thanks, what headers do you have?
     
  8. andy308

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    I put on Fabspeed headers and cats last year, no CEL or emissions problems. No extenders needed. I have a 2002 360 Modena. I used Ron Reineke in Tucker, GA to perform the work. Where are you located?
     
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    Andy- did they tune the cel out, or you are running stock ecu and no cel? Thx

    about to do this
     
  10. andy308

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    #10 andy308, Dec 31, 2019
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    I will check with Ron on the details, yes on the stock ECU and no CEL. I sent Ron an email or you can call him (Ron Reineke at Sports Car Service in Tucker, GA (404) 435-6760)
     
  11. andy308

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    Here is what Ron told me when I asked if he did anything special so as not to get a CEL, "nothing special ,We just made sure the timing is right on. and no intake exhaust leaks."

    I hope this helps.
     
  12. eskanday

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    Thank you Andy, I live in Maryland
    So you put headers and cats not just headers. Would the cats play a role in avoiding CEL in comparison of just changing the headers?
    Thanks
     
  13. andy308

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    Yes headers and cats were put on. My mechanic says they did nothing else special, no CEL.
     
  14. BrettC

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    Stock with no precats...
     
  15. driller1

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    My Extenders worked fine too. After initial header and extender install we had to clear a couple codes, but it has now been several years and have been CEL free.
     
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  16. eskanday

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    So you have US car with euro or 1999 stock headers with extenders? What did you do with the air rail?
    Thanks
     

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