News

1989 Ferrari 412i Chassis 82116

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by samsaprunoff, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 8, 2004
    2,988
    Edmonton, AB Canada
    Full Name:
    Sam Saprunoff
    Good day All,

    In the continued spirit to document our cars, I am adding info on the cars as they come up for sale, etc.

    As referenced within the thread started by Schumi (thank you once again for find the info!)i:

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/400i-412-both-manual-for-sale.593624/

    Chassis 82116 is offered by Sotheby's:

    https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/es19/essen/lots/r0041-1989-ferrari-412/733445

    All pictures are from their link above.

    Cheers,

    Sam

    1989 Ferrari 412i (GT - Manual Gearbox!)
    Color: Silver Exterior with Brown Interior
    Mileage: 52251 KM (?)
    Location: Essen, Germany
    VIN: ZFFYD25B000082116
    Chassis: 82116
    Auction: €80.000 - €100.000

    Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    4re308 likes this.
  2. markcF355

    markcF355 Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 6, 2004
    2,122
    Schmecklestan
    Full Name:
    Mark
    Besides the something funny with the seats, that's a really nice 412.
     
  3. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
    Professional Ferrari Technician Owner Consultant

    Dec 26, 2001
    13,264
    Canada
    Full Name:
    Newman
    Except the poo coloured interior lol. Im on a roll!
     
  4. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
    Professional Ferrari Technician Owner Consultant

    Dec 26, 2001
    13,264
    Canada
    Full Name:
    Newman
    Unfortunately raising the trunk height vs the 400 to increase downforce had a negative effect on the lines of the car.
     
  5. rubenpadron

    rubenpadron Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    945
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    Interesting - I did not know this was the reason for the change.

    To each his own... to my eyes, the 412 rear looks much more balanced and in line with the front to rear wedge shape of the car. I much prefer it to the 400, although both are beautiful.

    Ruben
     
    davidoloan likes this.
  6. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
    Professional Ferrari Technician Owner Consultant

    Dec 26, 2001
    13,264
    Canada
    Full Name:
    Newman
    4re308 likes this.
  7. PetMar

    PetMar Rookie

    Aug 31, 2018
    38
    Izegem, Belgium, Europe
    Full Name:
    Marrannes Peter

    It's always funny to see your own car pass by. The 412 chassisnr 59361

    Peter
     
  8. bjwhite

    bjwhite F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 17, 2006
    3,491
    Seattle, WA
    Full Name:
    Brian White
    It did, which makes me dislike the 412 more than I should. That and the horrible wheels.
     
    Newman likes this.
  9. m5guy

    m5guy Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Aug 17, 2008
    1,588
    Ventura, CA.
    Full Name:
    Greg
    I never knew that but now that you have pointed it out, the subtle shift of height from the base of the windshield and the top of the trunk is noticeable. What has been seen now cannot be unseen. I will always be squinting when I look at a 412 from now on!
     
  10. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
    Professional Ferrari Technician Owner Consultant

    Dec 26, 2001
    13,264
    Canada
    Full Name:
    Newman
    Sorry :)
     
    m5guy likes this.
  11. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 8, 2004
    2,988
    Edmonton, AB Canada
    Full Name:
    Sam Saprunoff
    Good day All,

    Just a follow up that 82116 sold for 57500 Euro ($65087 USD using today's exchange rate) with all fees included

    Cheers,

    Sam

    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  12. bjwhite

    bjwhite F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 17, 2006
    3,491
    Seattle, WA
    Full Name:
    Brian White
    Soft market or poop colored interior? It was quite a way off the auction estimate. Wow.

    Thanks for your continued documentation efforts Sam. I always look forward to your posts.
     
  13. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 8, 2004
    2,988
    Edmonton, AB Canada
    Full Name:
    Sam Saprunoff
    Good day Brian,

    Could be a bit of both? In the current value thread someone posted that they saw the car and stated that it did not look as nice as the pics (https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/current-values.598216/#post-146556104). Perhaps this was the reason? As for the market in general? Hard to say. There are not that many of these cars that sell and so our data set is a bit small in order to draw a true valuation and overall trend. Adding to this we have local and international market differences, car condition variances, etc and so this even further adds to the dynamic range of current values.

    As for documentation efforts... you are most welcome and your comment about my posts is most kind! I try and document as much as I can and include relevant info and pics if possible. I find that at times simply providing a link can result in that link becoming dead in the future. Thus cutting and pasting the text and adding pics in a thread helps maintain longevity of the info...which allows one to easily search for data on a particular car. If I wasn't so knackered I would spend some time and write a script to find and scrape all of the data on these cars on a monthly basis. This would ultimately save a lot of time and have consistent info. Yet another pet project to my never ending list :)

    Have a great weekend and I hope you out enjoying your car!

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
    rubenpadron likes this.
  14. carguy246

    carguy246 Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 8, 2006
    923
    Maryland
  15. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 8, 2004
    2,988
    Edmonton, AB Canada
    Full Name:
    Sam Saprunoff
  16. rubenpadron

    rubenpadron Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    945
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    Also interesting that the prior auction took place in Germany while the new auction will be in the US (Indiana).

    Ruben
     
  17. OttoB

    OttoB Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2013
    608
    Palm Beach, FL
    Indiana, for those that are not familiar, is friendly to mostly American pick up trucks, trucks, pick up trucks, trucks, and some Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Not sure why they chose this location for the vehicle but... it will either be a steal or, a no-sale.
     
    ecarca and carguy246 like this.
  18. JLF

    JLF Formula Junior

    Sep 8, 2009
    994
    Dallas
    Full Name:
    JERRY
    Love that car!!
     
  19. Rossroshani

    Rossroshani Rookie

    Sep 2, 2019
    9
    Los angeles
    Full Name:
    Ross roshani
    Well i bought it and is coming to LA
     
    Ak Jim, JLF, rubenpadron and 2 others like this.
  20. rubenpadron

    rubenpadron Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    945
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    I didn’t see that it has the CA BAR sticker... is the plan to get it certified?

    Ruben
     
  21. raemin

    raemin Formula Junior

    Jan 16, 2007
    320
    Lyon (FR)
    Full Name:
    R. Emin
    Congratulation on this purchase. Love the color combination, makes the car distinctive from the usual black or creamy interior. On top of it, in the long run, the patina of these dark leathers is outstanding.
     
  22. Rossroshani

    Rossroshani Rookie

    Sep 2, 2019
    9
    Los angeles
    Full Name:
    Ross roshani
    Yes going on that road to get car certified
     
    rubenpadron likes this.
  23. rubenpadron

    rubenpadron Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    945
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    Congrats, it’s a rare and beautiful beast!

    Ruben
     
  24. Rossroshani

    Rossroshani Rookie

    Sep 2, 2019
    9
    Los angeles
    Full Name:
    Ross roshani
    Thank you
    If any one know's how to get this done or where to start from please let me know
     
  25. rubenpadron

    rubenpadron Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    945
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    Ross, the process is not for the faint of heart, as California doesn’t make it an easy or inexpensive process to go through. I unfortunately don’t have any suggestions on where to start this, but there must be folks that do this regularly - there’s definitely a niche market in CA for 90s Japanese domestic market models, so perhaps this may be a place to start.

    I also own a 412 5 speed which was CARB certified back in 1986 (it was bought to CA as a new car). LMK if you’re interested in any reference pics or would like to see it in person (in the SF Bay Area).

    Good luck!

    Ruben
     

Share This Page