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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. Jeff Kennedy

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    Just because they can draw does not mean draw well.

    The Elise pick-up is hilarious. A cargo bed right through the mid engine. Guess they never heard of a package drawing.
     
  2. jm2

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    #4902 jm2, Jun 23, 2017
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    'We dowin' need no stinking package drawings'
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  4. jm2

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    looks like a piece of candy...........I want to lick it :D

    glorified kit car?

    checks all the right boxes as far as looking good (retro) but who's judging?
    Could have been much worse. There's always a public debate about"if they put an older design on a new underbody......they'll sell'em by the millions.......we'll see who puts their $$ where their mouth is ;)
     
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    Autoblog says the brothers are thinking in the $320,000 range. However, the new underbody is rather advanced and there is a choice of about 6 engines according to the technical specifications page:
    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53b2de0ae4b0188819ad1110/t/54c606dfe4b0a740d55a87ed/1422264031993/EFFEFFEBerlinetta-TechnicalFeatures.pdf
     
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    When will people learn 'design' and 'photoshop' are NOT interchangeable...
     
  8. jm2

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    #4908 jm2, Jul 2, 2017
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    I thought BMW had used the strong vertical texture for several iterations, and MB was late to the party

    Here's another example of when people ask/say all cars look alike........my response is because someone wants them to look that way
    MB must want to edge into the vertical grille design theme in spite of what their competitors at BMW are doing.
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  9. jm2

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    they won't, anybody with Photoshop becomes an instant designer :eek:
     
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    #4910 jm2, Jul 2, 2017
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    Yesterday I was invited to attend a PontiacGrand Prix show in honor of the 20th anniversary of the car. I was the Chief Designer of the '96 & '04 Wide Track Grand Prix and it was an honor for me to 'sign' some of the cars.
    I think the design has held up well for the 20 yrs, but then I'm biased ;)
    The thing that struck me was the passion these young people have for the car. As much as if not more than the Ferrari enthusiasts have for the Italian brand.
    It was nice to see the passion Millennials have for cars, in spite of everything we read in the press.
    These cars are finally affordable, and it doesn't take much to make them go fast.
    Some of the guys are getting 10 second 1/4 mi ET's with front drive cars!!!
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  11. Tenney

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    Very cool! It was recently Pontac's (and, coincidentally, Jim Wangers') 91st birthday - 06/26/26.
     
  12. jm2

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    very cool
     
  13. Jeff Kennedy

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    Nice to remember thin A and C pillars where people could still see out of the car.
     
  14. jm2

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    yes, that was from a different era!
     
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    Cool! :cool:

    All the best,
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    As with Oldsmobile, Pontiac was making its comeback when GM decided to pull the plug.



    Yup.
     
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    Here’s my take on the car, based on a quick walkaround.
    FRONT: Grille cavity is big enough and car manages to hide any clue that it’s got “safety energy absorbing bumpers.”
    The near horizontal chin spoiler is nicely integrated. The hood evens are well done, well integrated and don’t look “added on” as in many a lesser priced car. But the front turn signal lenses look exceedingly cheap, like the lid of a coffee ordered at McDonalds.
    SIDE: The side view is pleasing but breaks no new ground. It is curious that the roof wraps around to the side so much, unnecessarily so in this writer’s opinion. The side venting is functional, having a hot air exhaust vent behind the front wheels but the side sculpturing is a little too much like a far less costly car, the Camaro. The trim on the side vent is tasteful and up to date, having a stainless steel look.

    REAR It is nice to see the choice of a single taillight per side in the rear, similar to Ferraris of the ‘Sixties (275GTB for example) but the little fins surrounding the LED taillights are grotesque like a prop fro as ci from a sci fi movie of the Fifties. Still they came out of the much praised Vulcan show while the wing mirrors are closely related to the units developed for the One-77. The rear undertray is dramatic the way it sweeps up from the side and then goes across, all in what we are presuming is carbon fiber.
    Readily apparent from the rear is the “double bubble” roof . A Zagato trademark since the early 1950s, the roof humps originally arose from the need to accommodate racing helmets while stll having a a minimum impact on the aerodynamic profile.
    INERIOR: I neglected to view the interior but studying pictures on the net, I am puzzled by the random patterns in the bucket seats and odd rectangular shape of the steering wheel (better hope that there’s not too many turns lock-to-lock). In their press release Aston says “ Herringbone carbon fibre is paired with shadow and anodized bronze and optional aniline leather to give the facia, vents and rotary dials a rich material quality. The Vanquish Zagato is also defined by the unique ‘Z’ quilt pattern stitch used on the seat and door sections, as well as the celebrated trademark Zagato ‘Z’ embossed on headrests and stitched into the centre console.”
    On the open car, which I saw only in pictures, the decision to cover the rear aerodynamic fairings behind the bucket seats in leather matching the car interior is something I have to see in person; would have rather had body color.
    There will be only 99 made and I don’t know how many will come to the U.S. It is rated at 592 hp. And can do 0-to-60 mph in 3.5 seconds.
    All in all, I’d award it a 95 point rating on a 100 point scale, it mostly being the front turn signal lenses and fluted taillights that hold me back from full applause.
    WE found a price at a site called Business Insider of $800,000 to $850,000 and are presuming that the more expensive is the open car.
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  18. jm2

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    Comprehensive analysis!
    Thanks.
     
  19. jm2

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    Comprehensive analysis!
    Thanks
     
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    jag used it on the xk8 as well
     
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    Interesting approach to the movement of air around the body. Too bad actual humans might have to fit inside.
     
  24. jm2

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    Or as Bill Mitchell once said: "too bad aero had to go that way"
     

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