Anyone remapped the ECU in their F12? If so, which software manufacturer and what were the increases in torque and rwhp? Any detractors?
You should talk to Steve Mason at MASE Engineering in Jacksonville Fl.... I know he has tweaked an F12 ECU unit and got over 600+ RWHP and somewhere in the 770 HP at the crank... I have driven the car and the response is just awesome ....
We offer a remap I have personally done on a handful of F12's. Power band is night and day difference - with gains of 90whp in the powerband and about 55-60wtq. Our flash paired with our Sport Exhaust system makes 640+whp. Shoot me a message/call if you have any questions, would love to help or shine some light anyway I can! http://www.fabspeed.com/ferrari-f12-berlinetta-fabspeed-ecu-tune
No offense, just naturally curious about these tunes, but how can the modification support "keeping the operating parameters safely within the confines of reliability and longevity" with such a small sample size? Is there really any way to know the designers defined reliability and longevity limits? Seems its such a risk considering the loss of powertrain warrantee. Indeed many even purchase two year warrantee extensions for $10K-$14K just for peace of mind. Don't get me wrong, the F140 engine series is likely good to +900HP but only when the entire system is involved in the modifications and only by the engine designers would I consider it safe. But I would love to have another 150HP!
I second that, Steve Mason at Mason Engineering its great. He has done all of my cars in the part 10 years, from Porsches to Ferraris and not only brings up the life on them but also never has any kind of issues. He has my Ferrari FF ECUs now, I should get them back this week. Thanks.
Novitec have more experience and done more ECU remaps than anyone else has on the FF and F12. No issue when extending warranty whether power warranty or full coverage extension
Which dealerships will put in writing that Ferrari Corp. will accept engine and drivetrain warrantee claims related to ECU modifications? Thinking that those would be the most expensive claims possible and also wondering if they publish a list of approved tuners that are backed by the corporation. Would I, for example, modify their ECUs myself (easy enough with a re-programmer) and somehow Ferrari would approve and cover any related claims? Serious questions.
Very easy: You buy a second set of ECU’s, I think - can’t remember must check - they were EUR2500 or 3500 each x 2.....did this on 2 FF’s and my F12. I’ve not done the ECU upgrade yet on my GTC4L, but no doubt will do so once it is available.
The R&D process that goes into our software is very extensive; part of that is some of the reason you never hear of us ever hurting a car from an ECU tune. Every tune we offer has been extensively developed on our in-house dynojet with real-time parameters. Ferrari's data is no different than most vehicles in the idea that fuel trims, timing tables, and other values all have their obvious safe zones and of course, their risky ones. With running/reading them in real time on our dynojet, we are able to see exactly what the car is doing at all times - and with having an active wide band O2 sensor monitoring air/fuel ratios while we do our testing allows us to keep the safe on that fine line between too rich, and too lean on fuel.
I second this. I have a ton of clients that will purchase an additional blank ECU, and have us mirror the image on the stock ECU to the new one, and flash that one.
That's awesome! My guys usually stay away from that route because they're nervous that the dealership will get curious that you may be potentially flashing the car.
Red line we will leave alone. I know some tuners raise them to 9k+, but I have seen the cars spit belts and run into reliability issues spinning them that high just to get a little more gearing out of the car. Not worth it in my opinion.
