Patek Philippe - the basics of building a great collection

ronfrohock · Apr 19, 2024

Roma,
I have to say I truly appreciate your posts and agree with you completely.
I would love to have the opportunity to meet you someday, if you ever travel to Boston.

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SoCal to az · Apr 19, 2024

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I respectfully disagree with most of what was written here.

I think a long term relationship directly with Patek through your local AD will provide more long term benefit and satisfaction than buying grey market watches without perfect provenance.

Yes, you may buy some entry level watches, but it’s ok to have some of those in the collection and there is no requirement to be able to flip a watch on day one for a profit. This isn’t a business, it’s a hobby and if you buy right it will create a collection which will have value and gradually appreciate over time. They are also objects that can be passed down and cherished by others if that is something you might be interested in doing.

Just today I paid a visit to my AD, the expectation is that most of the watches I have ordered will in fact be delivered over the next few years. The green dial 5270p I posted above is a while away so I was asked if I wanted a different application piece in the meantime. I said sure and asked what was available and there was a 5270J. Now this is definitely not a watch I could flip for profit or even break even on day one but I don’t care. It was unsealed in front of me, I will own the watch from new and adding another application piece will further my relationship with Geneva. I’m going to have it fitted on a large scale, navy alligator strap and I think it’ll look a little younger and sportier than on the more traditional mid tone matte brown.

We were discussing minute repeaters and lunch with Thierry Stern and trips to Geneva so that was fun too.

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I have this watch. To spice it up- go to www.camillefournet.com. They make the straps for Patek and you can order as many custom straps as you want. 300-500 bucks each depending on material. You will need to order 21mm at the lug and 18mm at the buckle. I have 8 different colored straps for this watch now.

originally I ordered 4 patek gold deployant straps at $5000 each but now I just get the $30 gold buckle and call it a day.

swapping straps is a 30 second exercise but it makes it a ton of fun: I have a bunch of straps for my other Pateks as well so it keeps things fresh.

congrats on a gorgeous piece.

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ArtS · Apr 23, 2024

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It’s a fair question. I find mechanical watches to beautiful and satisfying objects. They are tiny little machines that perform functions mechanically. I love the craftsmanship, I love the attention to detail, I love the way they look and feel. imagine being put in a workshop and being told to build a machine to tell the time with two chimes like a minute repeater does, I could come up with a spreadsheet that could give the right numbers of dings and dongs, but now think of creating a machine to do that and these movements were invented hundred years ago, it really shows incredible ingenuity.

Just like luxury cars, I can remember when I had nothing and I would admire beautiful watches on the wrists of others and aspired to having such a watch. Wearing a beautiful watch gives me pleasure every second it’s on the wrist. I think the watch you wear is a reflection of who you are, of what you value, of what you appreciate. I like that most people don’t value mechanical watches. I do and I respect and enjoy the company of others that do. It’s also one of the few accessories/jewelry pieces that a man can wear and I think you can tell a lot from the watch that someone wears. I don’t mean that in a pejorative way like if you’re wearing a Casio or an Apple Watch that means you are lesser of a person, it just means you are maybe practical. I think a mechanical watch shows a sophistication that an apple watch doesn’t. I own an apple watch and wear it often by the way. I’m rambling, I will let others chime in too. Hopefully some of this makes sense.
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Roma, I like the explanation.

Edward, I'm worse - I like vintage cars and vintage watches. Roma is discussing a Patek minute repeater, I'm enjoying mine. That said, I bought it used - I'm it's third owner. It still chimes 12:59 when I pull it at 12:59 but I don't think it gets done chiming until its 1:00... :^)

I also like the old stuff more because it was made old school - no CNC - just really skilled artisan watchmakers. My grail watches would probably make most on here go 'huh?'

For example, to me owning, or even holding a watch made by I.K. Brunel while under the apprenticeship of A.L. Breguet; having the master looking over his shoulder to make sure his apprentice did it right is much more interesting than anything produced now, even the super complications.

Another would be a watch by F. Czapek - depending on your interpretation, the man who could be considered Patek Philippe's first watchmaker - what's funny is this purchase would probably be less costly than most of the watches posted here.

None of these are practical, but neither is a Ferrari (new or old). If you want practical, get a new Tesla, a used Toyota, an Apple watch, a Timex or a Casio.

Regards,

Art S.

roma1280 · Apr 25, 2024

Sometimes when I get a new watch it is love at first sight from the second I first put it on the wrist. Sometimes however I buy a watch because I like the design, the face, the colors, the complications yet somehow I don’t love it at first. The 5905p was in this category. It has handsome proportions, 42mm across and 14mm high. The platinum feels cold and dense to the touch, the watch feels substantial on the wrist. I bought a platinum deployant clasp as the watch came with a buckle. I love the side profile of the case with its concave bezel, the polished square pushers for the fly-back chronograph, the deep blue dial, the annual calendar with the three windows, the beautiful movement on display through the sapphire back, the subtle day/night indicator in the sub dial. This wasn’t love at first sight, but I’m in love now.

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SoCal to az · Apr 25, 2024

roma1280 said: ↑

Sometimes when I get a new watch it is love at first sight from the second I first put it on the wrist. Sometimes however I buy a watch because I like the design, the face, the colors, the complications yet somehow I don’t love it at first. The 5905p was in this category. It has handsome proportions, 42mm across and 14mm high. The platinum feels cold and dense to the touch, the watch feels substantial on the wrist. I bought a platinum deployant clasp as the watch came with a buckle. I love the side profile of the case with its concave bezel, the polished square pushers for the fly-back chronograph, the deep blue dial, the annual calendar with the three windows, the beautiful movement on display through the sapphire back, the subtle day/night indicator in the sub dial. This wasn’t love at first sight, but I’m in love now.

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when I got my 5270, I actually sold my platinum 5905 and got the steel. It’s a great piece. Congrats.

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poljav · Apr 26, 2024

You guys are just sick......
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roma1280 · Apr 26, 2024

SoCal to az said: ↑

when I got my 5270, I actually sold my platinum 5905 and got the steel. It’s a great piece. Congrats.

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Yes love the steel, great dial

roma1280 · Apr 26, 2024

New arrival today (the 5968g not the Roly)

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SoCal to az · Apr 26, 2024

roma1280 said: ↑

New arrival today (the 5968g not the Roly)

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Gorgeous!

SoCal to az · Apr 30, 2024

roma1280 said: ↑

New arrival today (the 5968g not the Roly)

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I'll be honest- of all the watches out there from all the companies- I think for a casual daily wear- this white gold blue colored 5968 is probably the best out there. Congrats on a gorgeous piece

Shark01 · Apr 30, 2024

roma1280 said: ↑

I

I don’t mean that in a pejorative way like if you’re wearing a Casio or an Apple Watch that means you are lesser of a person,
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No, I am indeed a lesser person…..get reminded of that quite often.

I love the cars you guys drive, the watches you wear, and the Instagram models you date.

Shark01 · Apr 30, 2024

SoCal to az said: ↑

I have this watch. To spice it up- go to www.camillefournet.com. They make the straps for Patek and you can order as many custom straps as you want. 300-500 bucks each depending on material. You will need to order 21mm at the lug and 18mm at the buckle. I have 8 different colored straps for this watch now.

originally I ordered 4 patek gold deployant straps at $5000 each but now I just get the $30 gold buckle and call it a day.

swapping straps is a 30 second exercise but it makes it a ton of fun: I have a bunch of straps for my other Pateks as well so it keeps things fresh.

congrats on a gorgeous piece.

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Really like the style and colors of these straps…..I guess you would have to pick out watch face colors with this in mind.

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