Your Opinions on this 1991 348TS for sale . .

That 348 was posted on Fchat a few months ago. It is truly like new. Not the color the thread originator is looking for. Unique for sure though! I was thinking of this car the other day as a potential candidate, but for some reason I thought it was red. I guess the interior color stuck to my brain more than the exterior. Thanks for posting the link.
BT

 

The motorcars International car (91 348 TS 8572 miles) was on my short list when I decided to buy my 94 Spider a few very short weeks ago. A local multiple Lamborghini owner (ralfabco here on fchat) under no uncertain terms assured me M.I. can be trusted. He has bought from them sight unseen (anniversary Countach I believe) and recommended them highly. That car in question is probably one of the finest you could find as far as 91TSs go.

If I were to buy it I would get a flight out to their location, have the car PPI'd for $500 - once it passes hand them a check for whatever you agree to pay for the car (call them, they get plenty of emails I am sure) and drive that beyatch to the house...actually, I'd probably wimp out and fly back and have the car shipped to the house.

Alternatively, do like I did and post in the classic section exactly what you are looking for and some fchatter will sell it to you. My post was:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91297

I think my selection criteria was a little more exact then yours is now but I ended up busting my top end budget and got a newer car then I planned to buy (not that I am complaining). Although aesthetically my Spider is not likely as nice as that M.I. 348 TS my Spider was local, fchatter owned, serviced by a mechanic I know (Norwoods in Dallas) and I did not have to pay dealer markup. I expected to have to wait many months to find an acceptable deal. I was going to let M.I. sit on that 348 for a while before talking to them about it.

M.I. Car would be very high 40s from an individual I believe. I am betting M.I. will tell you to pack sand for any offer under 55k...maybe 53k if they are having a rough day. If it is as perfect as it looks it may well be worth 59k.

You will be happy when you join the 348 brotherhood. If you can afford it, the 348 seems to be an unbelieveable bang for the buck. And now the prices seem to have stabilized. Fingers crossed that they go up AGAIN next year.

Good luck,

-Mike

 

Khanh,

Welcome aboard!

I was just at Stanford European. Did you see the red/black 348ts there? Pretty good shape - but certainly not concours/immaculate. They're asking $70K (I'm sure there's room for negotiation).


Keep an eye on the NorCal section for local activities/get togethers...

And good luck in your search!!

 

How's this interior? Maybe I'll sell you mine






No, not yet, still lovin it.
good luck w/ your search, that is half the fun...
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$59,000 for a 1991 TS 348??? And people give me shyt about $69,800 for a 1995 Spider. Im givin mine away based on their asking.

$59k is way too much for a 1991 TS, im sorry but thats my opinion.


Like that 512M they have on that site. Maybe we can work out a two car deal.

 

Well the story on my car is pretty simple. I have owned it 3 times now. The first time I sold it to a good friend of mine who is on this board from time to time. He now has an F355 because his wife didn't like the stick shift, so he got an F1.

I got the car back from him, then I sold it to a fellow in PA. When he bought the car he had me paint the roof, add the pedals and put the stick on shields on there. He is now moving on to 12 cylinders.Between the two of them they only put about 5k miles on it in 3-4 years.

I have driven about a tanks worth of gas in the car in the last few days. As of this morning it had about 21,500 miles. The car runs like a champ and all that is wrong with it is the center console is getting a little bit sticky, and they all do that as we all have learned. The outside is great and the mechanics are tip top and I have the records.

This is not a super low mile cream puff, but it is a lower mile very well sorted and documented car with a good service history and no funny business. I won't BS you, if you are looking for a super perfect cavallino classic car then mine is not for you, but if you are looking for a 99% car that you can drive, we should talk!

Ciao'

Steve
http://www.sportauto.cc/inventory_ferrari/feb06fer91red348/index.htm

 

My car is a drivers car, and that is not a bad thing. Now for the person looking for the garage queen I suggest you keep doing what you are doing...look every where and be patient.

I have had a couple of garage queen cars and frankly they have been a pain in the rear. Now that being said you can't beat them from a looks stand point and with enough money and time you can get them to run like a champ. I guess what I am trying to say is that with a queen you spend more for the car then you will spend more on that first service getting all the round parts round again and the dryed out parts replaced.

Good luck with your search!


Steve



PS...I have an 88 TR with 300 miles on it currently and I would be scared to start it! But it looks like it just came out of the factory

 

The interior of that car looks great to me. My 89 suffers from some slight bolster wear on the drivers seat, and an uninvited guest put a nice scratch in the passenger seat leather while I was at dinner one night. Pictures typically hide any small defect, but to me the car at Sportauto looks like new.
BT

 

Unfortunately, 348 interiors wear more than other models. Some years ago I bought a like new 1500 mile 348. I was disappointed that at 5K miles, the seats were looking pretty worn. And I am easy on cars. My current 328 which looked new when I got it with 7K miles still shows almost no wear at 20K. But, just be patient, you'll find what you want.

Dave

 

Just a thought, but leather in an open car after 15 years isn't going to look new unless it has sat covered in a climate-controlled garage since new. In that case I think you'll get a perfect interior, but a leaky engine with possible internal corrosion due to moisture.

You can have the interior redone, I'm guessing $4K-$5K for a quality job. Leather doesn't last forever, even high quality leather, and Ferrari seems to have used really average quality, surface-dyed hides in these cars. This is NOT a Bentley or Jag interior.

I have seen open Daytona's and 246's with amazingly restored, show-quality interiors. I plan to do that with my 328 eventually - it has a few scuffs on the driver's bolster but the interior basically looks great. I'll get it restored to perfection in a couple of years, once I'm sure this car is my ultimate keeper.

 

Went through pretty much the same scenerio...360, 355, then 512 and finally a 348. Even with all the dialouge etc on the 348 I wasn't "skeered". I like the cheese grater look, screams Ferrari.

I got a 91 with 10.9K miles, red/tan and the interior was perfect (no stickies, no wear etc.) with a good service history. Had the dealer add the Tubi, cover and shields and I was right at the number from M.I.

The only reason I didn't get the M.I. one was more distance from me with the cars being equal. For what your criteria is I'd look closely at that one.

Of course since appropriating I have added the Hyperflow Cats and within the month a set of the larger diameter Ronal wheels. Hence, I'm as upside down as an eskimo boy can be but so be it...toys,they make the world go round.

Good luck in the search.

 

Pics??

 

I think I can do that....

 

Hmmm, maybe not. How do you skinny them up...says it's to big.

 

Download magic image resizer from the net and set the resolution for 640. It will make copies of the files you select in a sudirectory.
BT

 

I think to ask an owner for high res photos is a good idea. Make sure to specify that you want pictures of the drivers and passenger side bolster and bottom cushions. If you let it known you want a show quality vehicle you can weed out a few potential sellers.
You can also just get new seat covers installed. The factory leahter is the same as from GAFF I think (I researched it about a year ago), and the seat cover set is only about $1800. If you have a local upholsterer or auto trim shop do the install, you will probably be in it for a total of around $2500 for a truly new seat surface. Keep your eyes on the forum here, you will find the right car eventually. I would expect to allow about 6 months to find the right car.
Good Luck!

BT

 

Dont quite understand the garage queen bit,mines quite nice and you can drive it round the planet and it would give no problems at all,i dont use it that much but when i do i thrash the crap out of it and it love's it
and its for sale but the steering wheels on the wrong side for you guys
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Again, the leather in these cars isn't very good - which is counterintuitive because, well, it's a Ferrari, right? It's possible the seller was lying about the mileage, but bolsters do wear faster than you'd think. You're right, you want a concours quality garage queen.

BT348's post above is good advice. Get those high-res photos (Steve Jones from Sport Auto sent me a full set, including from underneath the car while it was on the lift, before I bought my 328), and if you're an absolute perfectionist plan on replacing the leather.

 

watch out, odometer rollback is very common, ive got 40K on my 348 and the only thing wrong is the bolster shows a little wear, other than that interior looks like new

 

OMG, what on earth do you do to keep the undercarriage that clean??? wow! you car looks impeccable!

john

 

thank's john just try to keep it dry and stick on the ramp and give it a wipe over,its not bad for a 1990 car,the only none factory part is the sports exhaust just sounds great when its being thrashed

Dale.