Would you buy EAG conversion

Once the EAG is dialed in, I haven’t heard any horror stories. If I were to convert my car though, I’d go Cambrio/Dr S. fwiw.

 

I got mine converted in nov 2020 by EAG, if I were ever to sell my car, I can honestly say I see no reason why the conversion would be an issue for the buyer, it runs beautifully and works well and I've personally inspected most of the components and installation from front to back.

Note, their conversion process and parts evolved, so I can't speak to later conversions.

Drive it, make sure you get an informed inspection.

 

Other than what happened with the company, I haven't heard anything bad. However, as a buyer, I'd never buy a converted car. The companies that exclusively make such conversions inevitably go out of business, then if/when a part is needed in the future, it would be like searching for a needle in a haystack. No thanks.

 

The price you pay to drive a 6spd F430 thar diesnt cost $430,000 (on BaT, woah!)

With so many manufacturers, I would think parts can be found or made?

 

I wouldn't expect anything serious to crop up once the conversion is in and tested.

 

If it’s not your cup of tea more power to you, but to say it’s like finding a needle in a haystack for replacement parts that’s not too accurate.

Let’s assume that you have catastrophic failure of all of the conversion components (likely impossible) and no other factory/aftermarket manual parts are compatible (also not true), you’re looking at around $10k for the parts. Given how much these cars cost to maintain that doesn’t seem outlandish, but perhaps I’ve just accumulated too many eurospares invoices by this point.

 

If I change the wheels/suspension does that also make it a replica? Imagine if the transmission actually needed to be swapped!? *gasp*

 

I wouldn’t cross it of my list if it had all the options you were looking for, but keep in mind a lot of EAG customers paid top dollar for the conversion and might be valuing their vehicles higher. I priced them originally and I think out the door was between $30-40k. $170k is on the high side/overpriced, even for an 08 unless it’s low miles and then you’re not buying a driver so what’s the point. At that point, I’d prefer to get a clean car and do the install on my own or with a shop you have a working relationship with.

 

You price it in. When I bought my factory manual euro 360 in 2010, I priced the euro aspect in and got a great deal.

Persoanlly unless I did the conversion.. I wouldn't pay over a factory F1. But that's just me. Would I trust an outfit like one fo those youtoobers to do a perfect conversion better than i could? NO.

My issue with conversions is the ECU programming. With a factory car I get factory programming. With conversion cars I have no idea what I'd get. And with some of these you get "inconveniences" like Cat Temp sensors programmed out. So well.. the annoying Cat temp doesn't go off if you have a bad coil, and you get the privilege of buying a new Catalytic convertor when it overheats and you have no clue it's overheating.
Conversions are fun when you know what goes into them... but enough have been half ***ed that I wouldn't pay a dine for some cobbed conversion.

Then when you sell.. you convert it back to factory spec. simply IMHO respectively.

 

360 Spider. For example (no affiliation)
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I would, however the company has suffered a lot lately to the point of going out of business.

That being said I would not find it a problem since there are a couple other companies making conversion kits for these cars, so parts availability is there and will remain there.

These kits while different in many aspects, are all based off the factory manual mechanisms and components, so a kit from Cambio Manuale (Dr. S) or EAG will look and work exactly the same as an OEM one.

 

Personally, i wouldnt convert any car to a manual. but i also realize not many people agree with me. the prices of those conversions are anything but cheap, and id rather spend that money into maintenance and other mods which i will get more enjoyment out of than being slow between shifts compared to the F1 system... Also for me a manual is something i link to a small grocery shopping car and not supercars, but then again im probably on the younger side (1993) here who grew up with F1 systems and flappy pedal systems in sports/supercars and race cars

 

The manual is very involving, and a well driven manual 'box is pretty much on par with the standard F1 system. Definitely worth a try.

 

Re: replacement parts, aren't the OEM parts even more scarce/NLA? I don't think there's much to fail or worry about either way. I'd have bought a conversion car if it could pass a test drive and PPI.

 

Most of the shifter components are virtually impossible to find and I think I was one of the last people able to buy a new complete factory linkage and that was a few years back. If an oem part breaks that is NLA, good luck finding a used one. When I did my conversion I sourced all the oem parts I could, new and used. The last oem shifter assembly I saw for sale went for like 10k.... if your oem gated car breaks, good luck finding replacement parts on some of it.

While I wouldn't buy an EAG conversion, I see no problem with a converted car. I actually drive my car instead of obsessing over it's purity so it doesn't bother me.

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Ive had plenty of manual cars (Supra's Evo's, Z's, M3's) but ive always enjoyed cars with a flappy pedal box more driving wise. Admitted not driven a manual F430 yet, but the F1 has always attracted me more, even years before i was in the market for 1 i always said i would want a F1 version and not the manual version. For me a manual is something for a grocery getter and not on a high performance car... but to everyone their own ofcorse.

 

There is some element of risk because any or all of these companies can go out of business at any time. There will be a limit of buyers interested in doing this (I'm personally not in favor of conversions) and what do these companies do as that limit is approached? They will either have to develop new product lines or bail out.

 

You can buy any 360 or F430 and convert it yourself or have someone else convert it for you. If you check https://CambioManuale.com/ (Dr S) website for example, the prices of parts and conversion times are listed in FAQ (multiply by your local shop rate to get the total labor cost). Keep in mind that when doing a conversion it may also be good to do other work "while there" so the actual costs will vary.

But not all aftermarket parts are made the same, it depends on a vendor. Some may last a few thousand miles, others may last tens of thousands or more - basically as long as the car or longer. Also try to drive a factory manual and some converted cars with different conversion kits if you can, to compare how they shift etc. And ask (or inspect) parts origin - a company may convert using all original parts from a crashed car - except for incorrect VIN it will be the same as original. Or may use a combination of original and good aftermarket, or bad quality aftermarket parts etc. So do your due diligence before buying.

 

So what you’re saying is indirectly that you wouldn’t buy a factory manual either? Since those parts are impossible to find. Finding parts for your converted 430 is a walk in the park compared to factory.

 

my scud and 430 EAG conversions are rock solid. over 15k miles on the scud conversions and 3k on the 430. had a second 430 in f1, sold it. dont miss it.