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  1. CavalloRosso

    CavalloRosso Formula 3

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    We have finally finished our house in the Vail valley and will be moving our Volvo XC90 out there. Can you guys give me recommendations for snow tires? Studs vs studless? Best brands? Any help is appreciated.
     
  2. Glassman

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    Studded tires is the only way to go. They give you real security for winter driving.
     
  3. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    Personally, I feel studded are overkill and not necessary. For reference, I live in Vail. I put Vredesteins on the Range Rover and have NEVER had an issue. There may be days when studded are desirable, but, realistically, they aren't all that plentiful. Even up here in the mountains. Studded may give more peace of mind, but they are also harder on the roads. That may not be your concern, but I've not been stranded or afraid of going out on the Vredes. Also, the recommended tire by Range Rover is the Nokian Hakkepelita. You might check those out. I went with the Vredes, because I had good experiences with them on my Audi.

    CW
     
  4. CavalloRosso

    CavalloRosso Formula 3

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    Thanks for the replies. So far I have one vote for studs and one for studless....hmmmm...:D
     
  5. jonesdds

    jonesdds Formula 3

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    What size tires you looking for? I've got some tires off my X5 for sale. I wouldn't do studded unless your real high and or on a less maintained road. Blizzaks are a great tire or the mich xice I had on my subaru were great as well.
     
  6. jeff

    jeff Formula 3

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    I vote no on the studded tire. I run Blizzaks on all my cars.
     
  7. Dogdish

    Dogdish Formula Junior

    Dec 27, 2005
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    I vote for studless. I also run Blizzaks on an Audi A6 and a old 99 Ford Exploder. Haven't had any problems. ANY snow tire is way ahead of any M+S. Studless will work 99% of the time. I hope I have enough food and water for that 1% that I can't make it. :)

    PS...I also have 2 down sleeping bags, just in case.

    Dogdish
     
  8. whatspeedlimit?

    whatspeedlimit? Formula Junior

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  9. Mule

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    #9 Mule, Oct 9, 2011
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    Most commercial studded tires don't add a lot if the conditions are not for them. Example: in Anchorage, studs are great on icy wet days, when there is a lot of precip, and the temp is around 30 degrees. On very cold dry days, a good tire that can grab the snow works, and the studs don't add a lot (commercial studs, not big rally spikes). Also, you have tires with winter siping (which is again for wet and icy conditions). People don't use studs in Fairbanks, because it stays dry and cold (nice crunchy snow). Dry snow has a lot of traction.

    One winter I had mud terrain tires on my truck, and they were awesome when the snow was deep, cold, dry and crunchy. On wet days, they were very slippery. With all-terrain tires, better traction (more siping, more rubber), but didn't dig through the deep stuff as well.

    A good winter tire will have the right tread, softer rubber for gripping snow, but also lots of siping for when it is wet and icy. An all season tire might work, but doesn't have the siping and usually a harder rubber that loses grip in the cold.

    I now use all-terrain tires with a little extra siping added and one row of studs on the edges. Don't want too many studs or you may slide though an intersection if the pavement is exposed (with sparks). Of course we have two sets and switch twice a year. Winter tires are not "year round" tires, so plan on another set of wheels and tires if you get a winter specific or studded tire.

    Evaluate the local conditions - more snow or more ice? Today's winter tires are very good, and some can even add studs later if needed.
     
  10. porschespeeddemon

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    I run Pirelli Ice and Snows in 19" on my Cayenne Turbo when the snow flies. Have had great experience with them.
     
  11. Mule

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    Another bit of info. When you get the winter tires, I mentioned above having two sets of wheels and tires. Not only does this make winter and spring changeover easier, but it helps avoid a problem. It may not always happen, but a lot of people I know did the same set of wheels and changed only the tires twice a year. Other than increased labor cost, a few of them experienced that the wheels would develop small leaks on the bead from the wear of changing the tires so often.
     
  12. MichaelB145

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    I would recommend talking to Chris at On Site Tires. He is the guy who has a bad ass mobile rig for putting on tires. He only charges a couple of hundred dollars to drive up to Vail and put them on for you. He is also really good at finding the right tires when nobody can seem to find them.

    His number is 720-227-0119.

    Michael Bergren
     
  13. jeff

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    I use Chris all the time.
     
  14. CavalloRosso

    CavalloRosso Formula 3

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    Thanks Michael. I will give him a call. And thanks to all of the other posters.

    Right now I'm leaning toward getting a second set of wheels with either Michelin or Blizzak studless tires.
     

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