Will the f8 spider/sf90 spider appreciate in value?

Do a quick search as this question is asked every few days. No one knows what the future will hold but bottom line you should not buy a car as an investment. It is a depreciating asset. There are tons for sale and take a look at what they have been doing lately. SF90 are not getting msrp and f8 are down to 30k over msrp. Figure they both will continue their downward trend.

 

No

 

I don't see the turbo or hybrid cars ever growing much in value.

 

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Well FWIW don't buy any as investments-

That said- IMHO and I'm by NO MEANS an expert in any way shape or form- but simple math says-

SF90- $700k+ - Turbo/Hybrid- Arguably not super pretty (by Ferrari standards- matter of opinion/taste)- Hybrid/battery PITA- Sick performance

F8 Spider- $350k+ - Turbo- No Hybrid- Pathetically beautiful- no hybrid/battery ********.

Neither will be a "classic" - F8 is better money spent if you want to drive/enjoy the car.

If you want/have $700k to blow on an investment/future classic then buy a 458 Speciale.

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What people don't realize is that the SF 90 is the true last V8. There is one Icona V8 to come. But that's so limited. I think a lot of people are going to be kicking themselves for selling the SF 90. After the SF 90 and the F167, the future is almost all V6. Now, if that's the case, wouldn't you want to own the best performing Ferrari V8 in company history? I think there's some value to that.

 

I would agree 1000% if it wasn't a hybrid- WADR to SF90 current and future owners-

 

A lot of people here are down on hybrid. A few thoughts about that.

1. LaF is a hybrid. But they still have increased in value well beyond initial MSRP. I realize this is a limited car and there was a time when the values dipped. So did the values of F50s and low mile examples today are over $5M.

2. The buyers of these cars in the future will not see hybrid as a negative qualify. In fact, they may even appreciate them for their tech. Kids today are much more pro-tech then us old fogies. The future buyers of the SF 90 are 15 years old today. We had posters of F40s on our bedrooms walls. They have screen savers of SF 90s on their electronic gizmos. It's those kids that will drive the value of these cars 20-25 years from now. We'll be dead or crapping ourselves.

3. In the near future, everything will be hybrid, or EV or hydrogen or some crap we don't even know about yet. At that point, people will say, well **** I could have at least bought the V8 hybrid, which is more awesome than the inline 4 hybrid crap they are selling today. But I missed the boat when they dipped to MSRP and now they are $2M.

 

$2M? betcha they get to $200K first. lol

 

Ok. How much do you want to bet?


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Well ...not much of a gambler ... but hey its the festive season so how about a bottle of 2022 Vintage bubbly? Probably a couple of decades before settlement date !

 

Well, all valid points but...

LaFerrari is a special limited edition car, not for most F customers. Today we are getting turbos and EV's and hybrids to make up some lost performance of a N/A engine, not necessarily to improve it. I mean, the tires are the real limiters now, not the powertrains. So many cars both gas and electric go 0-60 under 3. Its not special anymore when a Tesla can smoke your SF90.

What's special is the drama. And, IMO, turbos and hybrids take drama away while increasing complexity. Complexity means long term expensive repairs and parts. That means as "an investment" it costs more to keep running therefore less valuable.

Someone paying $2 M for a La Ferrari probably doesn't mind spending $100K on a new battery pack. Will someone 4 or 5 years from now think the same on a SF90?

As to the hybrid thing-- does anyone think in the future you'll see a hybrid exotic on a Barrett Jackson stand and the announcer goes "and folks! It goes 15 miles on a charge! Saves on gas!". Ah, no. No one is going to care that it saves on gas puttering around town. So all the cost and complexity to give it this "government mandated" feature won't be appreciated by future buyers as anything special.

So my belief is that people will tend to view these complex systems as less desirable to keep them long term. Less drama, more cost at a minimal increase in performance.

No value? Of course not. They will hold value. But I don't see them going up much because new technology or systems will just replace them, like your old Iphone 7. And no one collects vintage Iphones.

 

Thanks, but I prefer to take your cash.

 

You're right. We should all just get Teslas.

There's plenty of drama from the fastest V8 ever made.

How about someone paying $10K to major service a $50K 355 GTS? Oh wait, those just went up to $300K.

You're sandbagging. I think the announcer will introduce the car as the fastest V8 ever made by Ferrari.

I think there is some truth to this. When every car is a V6, Ferrari will become more similar to McLaren, which essentially makes the same car in three or four different versions. But I also think that's what will make the SF 90 unique.

 

f8 will hold value,even if they sell at msrp thats holding value .ferrari did an amazing job with the f8 it truly is all that.its an investment in your happiness

 

I'm kinda in the same camp as this new suspension in the Purosaguin SUV.

The suspension engineering is pretty amazing with these electric motors taking over the ride height, body roll, etc. But imagine getting into a fender bender or hit a typical pot hole in Chicago and one of these systems gets out of wack and costs $50 grand to replace -- EACH.

Great technology -- until you have to replace it. Then its a PITA. Same for Turbos and Batteries.

If you have a Camry hybrid, you turn it over every 3 years. The last person to own it will be the person who needs to replace the battery. Then the entire car is just recycled. On an exotic, you'll just pay the bill no matter how much it hurts or part it out because chances are you won't be able to get a "used" battery or trust it. Either way, value is reduced.

 

The counter point is the suspension that appeared in the 599 is now in almost every Ferrari and no one thinks twice, yet at the time much was said about this new magnetic suspension- and also for carbon brakes. Anyway, I dont think the F8 or the SF90 are investment grade sports cars. Just enjoy them, they are fantastic machines to drive.

 

As an owner of a 458 and F12 my non-biased opinion is the same lol

 

The only knock against the 458 is they made a lot of them. But its the last of its era and certainly beautiful so a good one will always be wanted.

 

Time will tell. Seems like the used f8 market is slightly stronger compared to msrp than the sf90. Both v8’s so the last run for each. Appreciate the sf90 is the new flagship but I think it’s a bit more polarizing than some other more recent models. I passed and opted for a 296gts mid engine. I am more of a fan of the v12’s (will not sell my 812 GTS ever) but own and have owned a number of v8 s. Sad to hear this is the end of the line for them outside of VS. if I were to place my bet I think the F8 will retain value as a percent over time compared to the sf90. But if you own either or both you can’t go wrong.

 

As a kid I remember a certain new car "guaranteed" to be a very valuable future collector classic - the 1976 Cadillac Eldorado convertible. Last convertible ever!

Don't buy a new car as a investment

 

the V8 end of the line was the 458
a V6 Ferrari is called a Dino

 

Pista is the one going up the most form this era. last special edition V8. and the best looking.