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Why SHOULD MS Retire?

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  1. Pantera

    Pantera F1 Rookie

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    I don't think its time for retirement i believe he should move on to another type of racing like Lemans or sportscar GT. He's still young in the world of racing.
     
  2. Whisky

    Whisky Two Time F1 World Champ
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    When is the last time having two (alleged) TOP-RATE drivers on the same team led to good results, and not internal politicking, bickering and accusations ?

    If I am MS, I want to concentrate 100% on my opponent on the other
    team(s) - not my own teammate. (see Senna-Prost).
     
  3. bernardo66

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    Q: When should MS retire?

    A: When MS decies he's had enough.
     
  4. dretceterini

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    I think MS has proven everything he set out to prove, and should move on to the ELMS and LeMans. Maybe he could even entice Ferrari to build sports cars for the prototype class!!!
     
  5. Remy Zero

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    why would u assume so? did he publicly say that he didn't want kimi as his future teammate? i'm dying to see that partnership happens, but on the logic side, MS should be there 1 more season at least to groom young felipe. it would be a no brainer if felipe was pushed to the 3rd driver seat after some outstanding races he had this season, the team needs to build on that performace, and the team needs who else besides MS to be there in this particular period.

    i think MS is still fast, still has quick reflexes, still have that fitness and has everything he needs to be a champion. i only see MS retiring when he sees is he had enough, or if he opts to spend time with his young family. remember that both mick and gina-maria are still little kids.
     
  6. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Anything Michael wanted to "prove" was proven years ago. I don't think his being in F1 has anything to do with proving anything. I don't think he is an insecure man who needs the approval of others. He is a man who truly loves what he does and doesn't want to do something else.

    The "he's proven himself enough" is, IMO, a slightly changed version of the "why doesn't he give someone else a chance, he's always winning" complaint and IMO that holds no water, because asking a competitor not to compete is like asking a fish not to swim. It's just what they are born to do.
     
  7. 1_can_dream

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    I like the sound of Ferrari building for the prototype class.
     
  8. Mr Payne

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    a) We know this.
    b) He hasn't raced against a decent teammate in years.
    c) Getting beaten isn't a good reason for a normal driver to quit F1. Schumacher isn't normal by any sense of the word.
     
  9. DGS

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    Bingo!

    It's not that people think he should retire. It's that the fiddling around about contract renewals seem to indicate that he's thinking about it.

    For his own reasons -- whatever they may be.

    Maybe he wants to focus on keeping his son from becoming another JV. :p

    Or maybe doing this ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c-A_S48Zug) made the "cube life" look appealing. :D
     
  10. twk63

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    Checkmate? Checkmate? LOL!!!

    The ONLY reason Schumacher has those records is because Senna died in 1994. Had he lived, the records he would have set would have been unfathomable. Schumacher would likely have NEVER won a world championship with Senna driving a Williams. Senna joined Williams just as that team was taking off on another period of domination. If Hill and JV could beat Schumacher in that Williams, what do you think Senna would have done? Schumacher would have NEVER gotten the Ferrari drive, nor would he have ever beaten Senna in a Williams. To argue otherwise displays a staggering level of delusion.

    Like it or not, MS's records all come with one big, ****ing asterisk.

    That, my friend, is checkmate.
     
  11. imperial83

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    IF BUT IF BUT

    IF Senna had lived... If cows could fly... IF Minardi could win races!

    F1 is real racing... if you like fake made up story lines go watch the WWF!

    The FACT is that Michael has more wins than Senna!

    Michael Schumacher is the greatest racer ever. He is 7 time world champion.

    The FACT is that you are wrong as usual!
     
  12. Remy Zero

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    oh boy....here we go again...
     
  13. imperial83

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    And what about the time when he jeopordized his own future by joining Ferrari?
     
  14. imperial83

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    This thread ends here... great answer!
     
  15. bernardo66

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  16. twk63

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    Since that idiot imperial is on my ignore list, I can only assume what kind of moronic statement he has made this time.

    On second thought, I don't really give a **** what he has to say. I find my 2 year old makes more sense than that Schumacher sycophant..
     
  17. imperial83

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    You are a parent... poor kid... I hope you teach the kid FACTS!

     
  18. Remy Zero

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    LoL...
     
  19. ITAspeed03

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    I think the Schumi should do whatever the hell he wants too, its his career, its his decision along with Scuderia's. People hassle him for what reason, to see him gone?, I would love to see him and Alonso go at it every year it doesn't get old. And twk I'm sorry but you are entierely wrong, you cannot say Schumi wasn't half the racer everyone thinks he his, one how can you criticize, can you go out there and win seven world championships, let alone one race?, No. So please save yourself getting poked fun at, you honestly cannot say he isn't the greatest ever, he has been questionable at some times, but hes raced and raced, and whatever decision is made it is the best one for him, not anyone else.
     
  20. twk63

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    Anyone who thinks MS is the greatest driver ever has either a poor knowledge of F1 history or a great sense of humor. He is not even in the top 3, Ayrton Senna, Jimmy Clark, and Juan Manuel Fangio.

    Don't bother citing statistics either. He doesn't approach Fangio in terms of wins or championships. Fangio won 24 races and 5 titles in just 50-odd races.

    You can argue all you want that MS is ONE of the greatest drivers of all time, that I will give you. But to say he is unequivocably the best ever is ridiculous.
     
  21. racerx3317

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    I actually put MS behind Prost in my personal ratings but that's just me. Prost made way less mistakes and was generally cleaner. MS is 5th in my book
     
  22. CRG125

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    I didn't start watching F1 until 1998, so I do not know much about Senna, Prost, Mansell and Piquet. But from seeing the 94 season, when Senna died, wasn't Schumacher the guy to beat. Senna was at Williams, which was the best team and Micheal at Benneton. Micheal still beat Senna the first couple of races. Didn't Micheal also compete against Senna and beat him prior to 94? So I am confused about when some are you saying that Micheal is no where near the racer Senna, Prost and Mansell were. Micheal has only been with two teams and when he joined the teams they were not at the top. Micheal simply turn them around and started winning. Wasn't Prost at Ferrari for a season, did he win a championship for them? If Micheal is half the racer that Prost is, then how did Micheal win 5 championships for them and Prost could not win one? Micheal is the best in my book. I am sure Micheal would have still won 7 world championship, if Senna was still around.
     
  23. bernardo66

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    Where's Impy? ;)
     
  24. racerx3317

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    The Benneton in 94 was using illegal tracion control. MS got banned for two races because of it. Had Senna not died and it had been he not Hill fighting MS for the title Senna likely would have won. MS did compete against Senna in 92 and 93 and in 93 with the same engine. In 93 Senna won 5 times compared to MS's one and MS was one of the guys passed on the first lap at Donnington park. Not exactly beating Senna hand to hand. Prost was only with the team two years and almost won in 90. it took MS 5 years to win a title with Ferrari. If he was so much better than Prost then he should have won it quicker no?
     
  25. CRG125

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    Yeah, but didn't he almost win the championship in 97 for Ferrari? His first year with Ferrari was 96 and still won races with a crappy car. He screwed up in 97 by taking out Villenueve on purpose at Jerez. 98 again would of won if he did not stall on the grid at Suzuka and also if he did not blow his rear tire by pushing to hard. We all knew what happened in 99 when he broke his leg at Silverstone. I know he did some stupid things in his first couple years with Ferrari, but didn't Prost do the same thing at Suzuka by taking out Senna in the first corner. I guess he was returning a favor to his former teammate.

     

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