Why no F1 at Phillip Island?

Phillip Island is a bike track, no ?

 

Its not an FIA class 1 track

 

Seeing how the bikers (MotoGP lot + SBK) are against the idea of using Assen for F1, I guess they will make the same objections for Phillip island

 

FOM fees for starters. It costs a country anywhere from $50-100million/year to host a race. It would cost at least another $100 million to convert Philip Island which is Grade 3 to Grade 1, Philip Island is 2hr drive from Melb and there isn't enough hotels in the area to hold 100,000+ people. Albert Park on the other hand is 15min tram ride from the city which are free during the race weekend. I been to Philip Island for the MotoGP it's a French GP style nightmare for parking and MotoGP has about half the attendance of F1.

Mount Panorama has the same issues as PI being 2hrs from the city and only a Grade 3 track. There is wheels in motion to build a 2nd purpose built Grade 2-3 on the other side of the mountain away from the locals.

All the bike tracks still have FIA certification it's about the grade.

 

Yes and NO, it's a race track for very fast cars and F1 cars would be great on it but it's too far from any public transport ..... Mt Panorama the same , plus more drivers would die of fright at the Mount

 

I was going to suggest the mountain...Imagine F1 cars screaming down the conrod straight downhill before that kink then hard into the anchors. ****ing yes.

 

It's a bit more complex than that, I think. Often the FIA wants to make alterations to a circuit before it host a GP, on the ground of safety, and to make it more challenging to F1 cars. Also, the drivers give their opinions, and may ask for some changes.
For example, the FIA wants higher kerbs to prevent drivers from cutting corners, or go outside limits, etc... but also different corner radius, etc...
That is incompatible with bike racing, where a rider should be able to slide unharmed if he falls.
Car and bike racing have different needs.
The MotoGP riders, for example, are against the idea of having a F1 GP at Assen, where the FIA is already suggesting/asking for some track modifications.

 

What about Eastern Creek?

 

You seriously don't know what you're talking about if you think Mt Panorama isn't challenging for an F1 driver

MOST will **** themselves coming across Skyline and down the Dipper or up the Cutting !!

It's where men are men and sheep are nervous

It's really TOO dangerous for F1 racing

 

Jenson Button did a lap back in 2011,,
l think he still holds the fastest lap record fthere as well

 

Like I said before, you seem to have a problem with myposts, and you resort to personal attacks too easily.

That's enough for me to put you on my ignore list.

 

You are very quick to claim personal attacks over posts that are NOT attacking you, just stating facts, you would never have been to Mt Panorama which Jenson showed was dangerous for F1 because the car had to be radically changed to even make it around the circuit without scraping on the ground.

Having been there and watched many races we Aussies KNOW how dangerous it is for tin tops let alone F1 cars

Just stop pontificating and embellishing your viewpoint of other people's view that doesn't coincide with your transposition of the world

I use to quite like your posts but you've become very obnoxious in the last year, something must have happened to upset your attitude and I'm sorry for you

I post mostly humorous quips like lorenzobandini and furoni so I don't know what your problem is

 

I consider that a post that starts like : " You seriously don't know what you are talking about ..." is rather offensive, and the tone uncalled for.

It's not humourous either.

Beside, I never mentioned Mt Panorama once, so you cannot have read my post before jumping to conclusion.

If my posts displease you, put me on ignore, like I will do for you.

 

The small changing on a race weekend or higher kerbs has nothing to do with the track having the ability to host a race. If its not Grade 1 it's not hosting the race, it's that simple.

The FIA wants track modification to Assen to make it GRADE 1 as it's currently Grade 2 as per FIA site.
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Drivers/Riders don't give a **** and really have no say about track designs besides safety on the weekend of the event.

"Bike" tracks are still used by cars. Here is F1 Boss event @ Assen.

 

And here are the tracks mentioned in OP both Grade 3.

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In fact, MotoGP riders are very much concerned about Assen being used for F1, and have voiced their concern.
Read the motorcycle press on the subject.
One of the first thing they object is that the FIA wants to raise the kerbs to satisfy F1 requirements (stop corner-cutting, and driving off-limits).
High kerbs are dangerous for riders in case of fall, preventing them from sliding, and provoking injuries.
Also, some of the corners could be re-designed to be more challenging to F1.
There are even talks of MotoGP riders boycotting Assen if the track is changed..
The F1 Boss series may well race at Assen, but it uses the track as it is, having made no demand to change it.

 

Good question, it will still have some degree of subjectivity no matter what the parameters, but if it was scariness then Mt Panorama would rate up there with the old Nurburgring for danger