Why does the Enzo not have a rear spoiler?

The aero has been concetrated on going through and under the car, they can provide equal or better downforce useing various venturi tunnels etc with out a wing, it does have a small pop up wing though. You have to realize that a wing creates drag, drag is not a good thing but a byproduct of having a wing that creates downforce. Being able to create downforce through "hidden" measures is a better solution. Look at the McLaren F1 (GTR and LM aside) it has no rear spoilers besides a "air brake" and it can go 240 and handle fine. The F1 was the first to use active underbody aerodynamic management, and the Enzo and many others folowed suit. The rear spoiler has in theory become obsolete. While some do still do it (konessegg) its a small spoiler. You figure also the Bugatti has a spoiler but it deploys itself and when you go into "high speed mode" it doesnt at all. Race cars aside, which need the downforce all ALL times and they are going at speeds constantly that dictate the need for it, a spoiler has basicly just added drag with downforce equivalent that can be had with more sleek underbody aero management. - joe

 

The Enzo simply doesn't need a large rear wing. Most of the downforce required is generated by the underbody ground effects.

There is a small wing that pops up at the rear of the car though I am not certain if it's deployed at higher speeds or just under braking to keep the tail end planted.

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ER

 

Rises at speed to spoil lift and thus increase downforce. In race mode is always up.

 

Luca doesn't like spoilers. I saw a little video at the factory museum that showed some preliminary drawing (a model too?) of the Enzo body with an F50 wing.

 

Long time ago, i read in a magazine that Montezemolo wouldn't have a car with a spoiler on it like F40 and F50.

A small OFF Topic:

I saw Montezemolo at the luxembourg airport last friday november10. He had two bodyguards with him and was in a rush. Damned, that i didn't have a digicam with me.

 

does anybody have a picture with the wing up? I'm not sure if I've ever seen it up before

 

I'll second that request - I've not seen it either. IIRC F355 was first "normal" Ferrari to have underbody aerodynamics (I don't know for sure but presume the F40 and 288 GTO also did?)

 

Because the Japanese designer never should have been allowed near a Ferrari

The Schmenzo is Fugly

 

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I like wings - love the F50 and the MC12 and their wings.

 

Why does the Enzo FXX have 2 small wings (rear) then?

 

AMEN!!!!! f50 is the best

 

I wonder if using ground effects underbody aerodynamics is upset by irregular road surfaces? It would make sense that if you're going 175 mph down the road and the road surface had a pothole or abrupt change, the car would lose traction. If you look at the four types of recent Enzo crashes (2 fatal and two very lucky survivors), then you might wonder if a larger tail-mounted wing would have been a better solution? Just hypotheses of course.

 

Cause its a racecar?

 

For extra downforce.

The FXX also features the movable center section wing, with a larger surface area than the one on the Enzo and a gurney flap at the back for added effect.

Thanks for the education on the functions of the Enzo wing Jim.

>8^)
ER

 

Interestingly enough we had to put two small Gurney flaps on the front, in diffuser tunnel, movable aero devices to spoil the front downforce on P 4/5 as we had too much and were running out of spring rate.

This of course lowered Cx.

Best

 

A good one. (Not necessarily adding a wing but taking care with ground effect cars on bumpy roads)

 

i dont know the numbers so the following is just a guess. My Diablo GTR has a HUGE wing bolted directly to the frame to maxmize the downforce, the Enzo has the little wing. The Enzo and GTR make close to the same hp 590 and 660? its within 10% either way. The GTR dosnt have a rear difuser or much going on under it at all just a huge wing, but the Enzo feels like it has alot more down force I can feel it bite down as I speed up, that isnt the case with the GTR. They are both light cars but the technology in the Enzo is much more advanced than the GTR but they are similar cars in some ways more ways than a LP640 or 430 etc, and the Enzo "Feels" like it has more down force and no huge wing. I like the looks of wings too. The Veryon has a huge wing that gets taller the faster you go and that car really sticks to the road, it feels similar to the Enzo the faster you go the more down force I can feel. This is all just my observations with no science behind it.

 

Well you have to consider the Diablo is a brick compared to the enzo... the enzo also was designed FROM THE START to have underbody aero. Also the GTR is a race car for the road... including the wing. You must also consider that the bug that u talked about sucks the wing in on "high speed mode" and only on handeling mode does its wing pop out

 

The 288 GTO and 355 have no underbody aerodynamics, aside from the basic rake angle. The F40 has a very small diffuser at the rear, which is similar to that on the F50.

The 360 was the first Ferrari road car to make use of venturi tunnels.

 

Underbody aero is very sensitive to slip angle and ride height.

If you go over a crest at high speed, as soon as the car gets a bit airborne your underbody downforce disappears and you're in big trouble.

Potholes and bumps aren't particularly significant, unless they're severe, in which case the change in rake angle and ride height could upset the aero.

The Enzo's front and rear wings transition into "High Speed Mode" above 220km/h, enabling better acceleration and a higher top speed. The flipside though it that the car becomes much more reliant on the underbody aero.

From the Enzo manual:
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