Let us postulate the Ferrari could even do this. Ferrari would never give Wolff enough freedom to run the team as it needs to be run to win championships.
Mercedes engine boss Andy Cowell -- one of the key individuals behind the brand's success in Formula One -- will leave his role at the end of the month, prompting a restructure of the management at the team's engine department. June 15 report. Be interesting to see who it is if Toto does not remain
Cowell is good friends with Kaellenius and never said he’s leaving the team altogether. Otherwise Allison probably
FIA. Secret tyre tests, etc, went unnoticed. Weren't they ones together with Renault, drafted the current engine formula? Also, each time a teach, in this case Ferrari, challenge them, there's always the FIA finding something 'wrong' and slowing that particular team down.
Ferrari and even Red Bull have large budgets too. It's not only about the resources, it's the way you spend your budget, the quality of engineering, the constant development, and good management. Ferrari keeps making mistakes, sacking staff, looking for a scapegoat at every occasion. I can understand the frustration for a tifosi, but don't blame Toto Wolff and Mercedes for Ferrari's mistakes.
When a team is able to lead three differents programs at the same time because he has the financial funding and humans competences to do this the others teams looks all like amateurs. In 2014 Cowell said they made 27 differents power units prototypes before entering the winter testing. But you could believe all they said and this Brand never lie as we see with their own dieselgate ( 2 billions dollars fine last week )
There was nothing in the rules to prevent Mercedes to prepare for the new hybrid formula . If you are bitter about other teams spending less resources, that's your problem. Renault and Honda could have done the same, and I still wonder why they haven't caught Mercedes yet, 7 years later !!! Money talks in F1 like in most sports.
Agree so no tour de force there. Just huge differences between budget and staffs. Therefore no need to admire them so much like you have done constantly. Hammy luckiest driver in Formula one history.
I admire Mercedes, Toto Wolff and Lewis Hamilton a lot because they are the best of the moment, and have been for some time. They represent everything a team should strive for: excellence in engineering, good management and tactics. I loved McLaren in the past for those same reasons too. One year, they won all the GPs bar one !!! If Red Bull, Christian Horner and Max Verstappen manage to come on top and win plenty for several years, I will admire them too. And Ferrari with Binotto and Leclerc bring back anything resembling the Todt-Brown-Schumacher era, I will like that too. Sorry, but I like winners more than losers. They are more inspiring to me.
You are thinking like someone without deep root . A globalized person without any real conviction. As a epicurian french i would compare you with a pasteurized cheese looking good but without any kind of flavours.
Again it is Todt, not Toto who has ruined F1. History has shown that there has always been eras of domination as new technologies/ideas have become implemented- ground effects, Cosworth, turbos, active suspension, etc etc The difference is that in decades past one had any and all resources to be able to respond. The emasculated responses by the current gelded teams is due to the misguided cost cutting measures plain and simple- no testing....limp responses. Cuckolds. Thanks Jean. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
There is nothing wrong with the way I think. Learn to cope with different opinions. And you can stop insulting me as well. Personal attacks on this forum can only lead to a ban.
Perhaps moderators will some days realize how cleverly you manipulate things. Personally I don't care to be banned and I didn't want to insult you but more to do a soft comparison with a product I like very much. I could have been more offensive but I am a polite guy in the end.
Hammy just said that 2000 peoples are working right now for formula one in Daimler Benz ( don't know if he refers to brixworth and Brackley only ) they said they have the same spending than red bull or Ferrari per year. perhaps a lot of volunteers ?
I would say that the sport isn't ruined at all, it changes with the time. But some people's frustration is growing because their favourite team doesn't deliver the results they expect.
Perhaps they have slick auditors who appropriate costs to indirect R&D, but wholly benefiting the F! team. For the FIA to trawl through the Mercedes accounts and proportion F1 costs from it is plain stupid and nigh impossible, that goes for all the other teams too. Just scrap the ruddy ruling and let market forces dictate what each company can afford.
I wonder why someone would spend 14 years and write more than 15,000 posts in a Ferrari forum actively defending other teams.
The contrarian standpoint I guess. Problem with that is there is no point in arguing with or against as you know it’s not what the other really believes is right or wrong anyway, just the opposite take for the sake of it.
Very true but for me the drama has gone, the mystique and anticipation will the car last, nail biting stuff. Today, clinical and near perfect reliability except for a few Pirelli tyre F ups!. I tend to think F! is now a nice big juicy water melon, very appealing from a distance, unfortunately when you bite into it there is no substance and little taste.
I like how you word your argument...almost as if Honda/Ferrari are idiots... What you fail to include is that Mercedes told the FIA ''adopt these rules or we'll quit''. They already had the difficult bits of the engine done.They had the working concept...when FIA was still debating what engines they should be! The engines are Mercedes' rules. They designed the engine so to say. As for why they weren't caught...well that's quite easy. The initial engine freeze benefited Mercedes enormously. When the rest was working out how to get to Mercedes power levels and reliability, Mercedes had tons of real time data available to them and how to improve matters....When FIA introduced the token system for engine upgrades, manufacturers had to make tough choices how and when to upgrade...and if an upgrade didn't work, they had to either revert to the old part or stick with the wonky new one....with the tokens already spent! So manufacturers had to introduce their upgrades with a degree of safety...meaning outright performance was nigh on impossible to reach! Renault in that time was debating if it was worth it to continue investing in F1 and the engine side, hence their engine performing poorly at best. Honda not only joined the F1 party a year late, they also didn't have 3 or so years beforehand to develop engines...and only had 1 team running their engine with data coming from just 2 cars. Ferrari finally designed a proper engine but Mercedes started to complain and the car was hung full of sensors. FIA never found anything in the car, they had an idea what Ferrari was doing but couldn't prove anything, even after confiscating several engines. Ferrari had to build their current engine in no time, hence the lack of performance. And now we arrive at today...with Mercedes again with a vastly superior engine, after the Ferrari was neutered...and now that their toys are being taken away they're putting up the victim card. Even if there never was a engine freeze or token system, Mercedes likely would've have won the 2014,15 and 16 championships. Those years they had the best car and also the best engine. Good for them. Renault had a dog of an engine. Ferrari had a dog of a car. Red Bull had the chassis but crippled by the wonky renault engine. 17, 18, 19 would've been an almighty battle between 3 teams. Who knows who'd have won those....my money is on a mix of Red Bull and Ferrari.
I read that Toto said they spent around 1 MILLION man hours developing the engine ...i guess that counts for something.
