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  1. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    Jun 20, 2012
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    Esprit faster, better dynamically, and more involving, but noisier, more rattles, worse build quality, less comfortable and not as nice interior. I loved the paper dart styling - the two are too different to compare, they're both good-looking cars.
     
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  2. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Great car,a group of us on here do 5/6 day runs,2,500 to 3,000km drive and yes one of those is in the group.
     
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  3. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    Oct 31, 2003
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    Out of the 308 series (any of them),a G series something all the way up to a late 3.2 Carrera and the Esprit, you would expect the latter to have the highest level of grip, be the most responsive and have the most communicative chassis.

    But it doesn't.

    The Lotus feels fabulous up to about 9/10, perhaps that's enough in the real world. The Porsche and Ferrari just seem to have that last 10% of chassis development, and it shows. I've done a fait bit of work to early Esprits and they've all ended up the same and despite my best efforts with tyres, damping, ride height, bushes and alignment settings, it's as if the front and rear just don't work together on the limit.

    That's not just me. At a track day in 1987, Alf Costanzo did some laps at Calder Park in Ivan Butterworths green 1985 Turbo Esprit. He said, and I quote; (Insert Italian accent);

    I can't get the car to work with me like the Porsche or Ferrari, it's as if the front and rear fight each other

    IMO they do look amazing and the chassis is communicative up to this 9/10 limit. Quick steering, light, plenty of torque and they make a good GT car too, with a reasonably quiet and compliant ride. The interiors wear poorly (As does the rest of the car actually) and the leather can look like a 1980s Peter Stringfellow designed night club after a while.

    I really like them, the S2 version is probably the underrated runt of the litter however in the current insanity of the classic car market, the Esprits are good value.
     
  4. MrGrigio

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    Excellent summary!
     
  5. MrGrigio

    MrGrigio Formula 3

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    Great post and I agree with what a lot of what you are saying - especially about the interiors of Esprit’s and your comments on s2 - they truly very underrated.
     
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  6. FazzerPorscheman

    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

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  7. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    All broken?


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  8. FazzerPorscheman

    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

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    Derr.

    That’s a given. [emoji41]
     
  9. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
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    Aug 26, 2011
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    Chloe took the Lotus to work today for the first time.

    Pleased to report she made it home safely. :)



    Chloe is also fine.


     
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  10. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Your dog took your car to work?

    How odd that your dog has a job!


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  11. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    You know you're in Britain when you see a Lotus on a hoist, a fuel tank removed, next to a bandsaw.
     
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  12. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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  13. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    with a cardboard box to prop the bonnet open :)
     
  14. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    For Pat,ABC 23, Lotus Elan resto on Car SOS
     
  15. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Great colour .
     
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  16. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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