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Who makes custom fuel lines?

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  1. KISSLUST

    KISSLUST Karting

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    #1 KISSLUST, May 1, 2017
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  2. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

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    I am not 100% certain but the threads might be an Emeto ( might be amito as not sure of spelling) fitting-not seen any in a long time.
    you should be able to get the pipe made by someone who does special brake pipes etc. Banjo will be standard
     
  3. KISSLUST

    KISSLUST Karting

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    The end of the tube is a reverse flare.. When you say standard banjo is that a #6?
     
  4. mike32

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    It is spelt Ermeto. Have a look at www. Parkers.com to see if anything matches
    No 6 on the drawing is not a banjo from what i can make out on this poor drawing-the actual banjo is the broken bit on your fitting-you should be able to get that off the shelf
     
  5. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

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    The end of the pipe with the loose nut has a coned fitting which is probably slipped over the pipe and silver soldered on. The other end has the banjo fitting.
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

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    #6 Steve Magnusson, May 1, 2017
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    I'd suggest you contact Larry Fletcher (fletch62 here) at CIS Flowtech (which is in your neck of the woods) -- he can get you the parts (fittings and tubing) to replace the metal line with a Cohline line, and/or would know best what other options are available. For example -- see here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/boxers-tr-m/189796-boxer-cis-fuel-system-inspection-repair-2.html

    It looks like you've already been updated to the later style pumps with the replaceable check valve so not sure that you can use a stock #48 piece (as the SPC shows the older style pump -- but they don't always get the pics updated correctly and just change the PNs) -- can you unscrew the nut and post a photo of the unassembled pieces?
     
  7. KISSLUST

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    Yes I will disassemble and post this evening. I have Bosch 0 580 254 947 fuel pumps. What should I have? I am having to replace both pumps. This is what caused me damaging the fuel line.


    Mike32, sorry my comment was confusing I meant is the banjo 6mm?
     
  8. Steve Magnusson

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    That's perfectly OK for your model (and no need for the photo -- the Bosch PN tells all). That's the later style CIS pump with the replaceable check valve. On your model, the metal line with the banjo fitting can work with either the early or late style pump (which is not the case on the 308s so they require changing the line completely). However to use the early style pump, you'd need the special male #48 piece as shown in that SPC figure -- since you don't have that piece anymore (and it's probably unobtainium), just stay with the later style pump which uses a female nut (and the female nut you have comes in the check valve replacement kit so is much more easily found/sourced).

    This whole thing got mucked up a few years ago when Bosch quit making the early style pump (so everyone had to update to the later style when replacement was needed), but the early style has recently been reintroduced. You'll still need a new line since yours is damaged, but I'm sure Larry F. can help you (and at reasonable cost ;)).

    Here's the CIS fuel pump information for your reference:

    Early style CIS pump with non-replaceable check valve = F PN 113976 = Bosch 0580254910 = Bosch USA 69523

    Later style CIS pump with replaceable check valve = F PN 121727 = Bosch 0580254947 = Bosch USA 69532
     
  9. KISSLUST

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    I still have everything in the picture above and the passenger side pump has not been removed as of yet. I am assuming since this one was impossible to break free that one will be also. I have everything that was on the car but just snapped the above line. Are these the parts you are referring to?
     
  10. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #10 Steve Magnusson, May 1, 2017
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    You need to hold the thin hex feature (on the right side of your picture) with a wrench while you turn the large hex nut on the left side of your picture with another wrench -- that way there is no twisting load placed on the banjo fitting of the metal line. If you just try to remove the large hex nut on the left without holding the thin hex = the metal line can get bent/break. There are three pieces in your picture:

    the large female hex nut on the left,
    the banjo fitting with the metal line, and
    the check valve (with the thin hex feature) that looks like this:
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    The item 48 you've marked with the "star" in your photo is two pieces (your original item 48 as shown in the SPC figure was one piece, but it was replaced when they went to the later style fuel pumps).
     
  11. KISSLUST

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    Understanding much better now. Thank you! I am going to try and contact Larry tomorrow he is in South Alabama (which I frequent often) maybe he can fabricate what I need!
     
  12. mike32

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    Now we both understand it !!
     

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