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Who made the first supercar?

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by J.P.Sarti, Dec 8, 2006.

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  1. GTS Bruce

    GTS Bruce Pisses in your Cheerios

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    575M. First honest 200MPH production car.
     
  2. JohnnyRay

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    Probably not. And I have a Maranello myself. Very special GT...but not quite exotic enough to be a supercar IMHO...
     
  3. F2003-GA

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    +1

    Exotic Supercar to me is at least 12 cyl engine in the rear
     
  4. dmj

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    Miura is generally considered as the first supercar for obvious reasons. Outrageous looks, great (by standards of the time) performance and, equally important, complete lack of racing pretensions. Most obvious predecessors like 250 LM and GT40 were racing cars that could be driven on the road. Of course, later there were also supercars adapted for racing but generally term should mean vehicles with mid-engine, lack of rear visibility, creature comforts and any other practicality, built mainly for showing off. With passing of time things changed so now we can accept front engined models as supercars, borders erased and filled with crossovers of all sorts, just like in all other segments.

    But the answer of „first“ is not technical, not even historical but technical. So Miura is the first supercar, and it doesn't matter if there were other models before that could be fitted into description, as we think of it today.
     
  5. boxerman

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    Totaly agree.
     
  6. spirot

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    I agree that the Muira is the first super car .... There are some other cases for cars of the teens twenties thirty's etc ... But the Muira wins

    However I'd also make the case for the Ford Gt40 which was launched as a full road car wire wheels and all but I think the Muira still wins as it was only made for the road

    The Countach simply took up,where the Muira left off
     
  7. WJGESQ

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    Yep. It was entirely a cut above anything that came before it.
     
  8. WJGESQ

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    That would be a hot rod. A suped up, but generic car, regardless of how fast would not earn the supercar title. Not to me. By that definition, any number of tuned up rice rockets with fart can mufflers and neon lights would be a "supercar", a premise to which few reasonable prudent people could accept.
     
  9. George J.

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    Supercars were just those sporting cars of there day that exceeded their more mass production brethren by a big margin. Here are one or two from several manufactures.

    Alfa Romeo
    8C2900B
    T33 Stradale

    Ferrari
    400 Superamerica
    250 GTO
    F40

    Lamborghini
    Miura
    Countach

    Masserati
    A6GCS Zagato
    Ghibli (or Bora)

    McClaren
    M6BGT
    F1

    Jaguar
    XKSS
    XJ220

    Bentley
    4 1/2 Liter Blower
    Speed Six Blue Train Spl

    Mercedes
    500 SSK
    300SL Gullwing

    Porsche
    911 2.7 RS
    959

    Bugatti
    Type 57 Atlantic
    EB110

    Duesenberg - SJ Speedster

    BMW - M1

    Talbot Lago - T150-C SS

    Pegaso – Z102

    Ford - GT40
     
  10. JazzyO

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    Completely false statement. The F40 already broke through that barrier 15 years earlier, and maybe you've heard about the McLaren F1 and Jaguar XJ220 amongst others? Unless you consider them 'dishonest'.

    And in any case, why would breaking through the 200mph barrier in 2002 for a production car be any more "super" than breaking through 180 mph in 1967? There is no doubt that the Miura qualifies as a supercar. Arguably the 500 Superfast also does. I like George J's post above, a lot of cars there that are genuinely ahead of their contemporaries.


    Onno
     
  11. Todd308TR

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    Bruce is talking about a "high" volume car. LOL
     
  12. WilyB

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    Given that the Miller itself was a copy of the 1913 Peugeot engine... :)

    Offenhauser. The Greatest Racing Engine Ever Built? - Rod Authority
     
  13. Igor Ound

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    Who did the first Hypercar?
     
  14. DrJan

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    Batman owns it!
     
  15. tbakowsky

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    I would have to say it's a toss up between the mclaren F1 or the Jaguar XJ 220.
     
  16. Igor Ound

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  17. texasmr2

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    Supercar/Megacar is a state of mind and opinion. There are cars that can hit 200+mph but are probably not as engaging and visceral as my dearly departed AE86 or Miata.
     
  18. Gran Drewismo

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    For me, the first hypercar is the Koenigsegg CC8S.
     

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