Who is T.Rutlands?

Been around for ages with lots of stock. A bit pricey, but what isn't when it comes to Ferrari. Some social events there to so he obviously has some fans!
CH

 

Ted rutland sells new and used ferrari parts, has a great reputation and I can vouch for that myself since Ive dealt with him. He's a no BS kind of guy. He also breaks up some f-cars for parts that would make many cry but hey, if we want used NLA parts thats the way it is.

 

I have known of these guys for a number of years and bought Bellows to Gearbox .I found helpful and knowledgable advise from a stable informed and pleasant group of Ferrari loving staff. Ask for Serio a no non-sense 30 plus year Tech now selling parts.

Cheers

Robert

 

T.Rutlands is a great group of folks. i have chatted with them at the Roebling Road events here and bought parts for all 4 of my Ferrari's from them.

2 thumbs up from me.

Michael in Savannah.

 

T Rutlands, Rifeldriver turned me on to them, I have had good success getting anything I have needed, a bit short on tech help, but thats why we have F Chat. Prices are what you wold expect for a Ferrari. I order parts shipped via ground UPS and almost always have them in jacksonville FL the next day.

Ted often has unavailable parts made, which makes him a top notch kinda guy to me.

Brian Kegan was the best there, He's gone now, but I have had good luck with all the rest of the guys

Doug

 

WOW, you are new to the world of Ferrari!

Ted Rutland and Maranello Auto Parts are well known to most of us. Buy with confidence.

 

I can't praise T. Rutlands enough. A great group of guys with a ton of parts.

 

As mentioned, TRutlands has a GREAT reputation.

However, just so you know, the 80-81 308s are the LEAST desireable of the 308 series. They are 2 valves per cylinder and the first years of fuel injection (and of course, the US cars have the emissions crap), so these cars were the lowest horsepower. They also were known for having engine problems early, but that should be taken care of by now. They also have limited rust protection (as you can see from this particular car).

That said, many FChatters have these cars and have great success with them. I've ridden in a 2v injected car before, they are not bad cars at all, but for some reason, the reputation goes with them. So you need to be informed if you buy one.

The one in the ad you posted has "high miles" for a ferrari, and its the lowest power/least desireable, and the rust is a bit concerning. However, TRutlands has a GREAT reputation for parts (dont know about car sales, but d*mn near the best when it comes to parts and knowledge), so if you get a good price, it may make a nice starter "first ferrari".

James in Denver

 

Please explain.

 

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Was not meaning to offend, seems as if you have an 81. There have been threads on the 80-81s where owners have "complained" that they are tired of hearing the bad reputations of the 2V injected cars, and I tend to agree. I've only ridden in an 81, and I didnt noticed that big of difference between it and my 84 QV, maybe if you track them, sure, but not for everyday street driving (and especially not up here at 5280 feet). The 80-81s just have that reputation, but they are, after all, still a Ferrari.

I was only pointing out to the OP that he needs to at least be aware of the reputation (real or not) about the 80-81 cars.

Of course, if the OP wants a first "ferrari", there is a Fiero-based 308 kit-car here in Denver for sale (needs some work) for $7K LOL

James in Denver

 

I had the Porsche books, sold most of them. That was my first Ferrari swap meet. Sold my 911 and purchased a Mondial.
Ted was very nice and made everyone feel at home. Looking forward to going again.

Charles
Jacksonville

 

I am in no way offended,I do not think that it matters if I have one, my Fcars are driven everyday on the street rain or shine and we have downpours in Florida and they run with no problems. I can not say anything about 5280 feet. A Ferrari is a Ferrari no matter what model it is, just depends upon what the person likes.

 

Why does he need to be aware of a reputation if it is not real? Also, by your own admission, you have only "ridden" in an '81 so in other words you are not sure what you are talking about right? If you tend to agree that you are tired of hearing bad mouthing about 2V injected cars, then why do you yourself continue to put forth this nonsense?

For the record, 2V cars are fine. Ask any 2V owner on here... They are heavier but actually their engine has better performance than the late USA version carbed cars. The performance between a QV and a 2V is hardly enough to even notice...and not enough to notice at all when you are driving in town. QVs are not that much faster at all...they're not. None of these cars are really fast and we all know it. If you think your 308 is fast, you either have a supercharger or you are in denial. Sounds cool? Yes. Fun to drive? Yes. Fast? Not really... Some very early 1980 cars (not 1981 cars at all) had "excessive" oil burning issues due to inferior materials used on a bad batch of rings that the factory were using in the very early engines. The factory knew of these cars that were affected and they were dealt with in a recall. Also, excessive oil burning is relative - all high RPM engines burn oil period. All 308s burn more oil than regular engines period end of story. If you have a 308 that doesn't burn oil, it doesn't run... The engine issues on 1980 cars affected a very small number of cars and they were dealt with so that criticism is bunk. My car is a very early 1980 car that is effectively a single owner car (me and my dad).. Ferrari replaced the engine in July of 1982 with a new engine. The dealer HAD TO TELL US that we were part of the recall as we never noticed anything wrong with the car if anything...

Ask anyone on here that has a 2V car and they will tell you that they are very reliable. We have never had a problem with our car in 27 years! ..even before the engine change. Again, those cars that may have burned slightly more oil due to having these rings installed were known by serial number by Ferrari and those cars were recalled and this was handled 25 years ago! This is bull****...

As for the rustrpoofing that was placed on the 84 and 85 cars, I have seen rust bubbles on those cars too. Rust in the bottom of the doors on these cars is very very typical and comes from washing...

 

I have sold them parts, and I have bought parts from them, every time things whent great A++++ I would buy from them any day!! I WOULD NOT BUY A DAM THING FROM LYLE TURNER IN CA!! To much of a problem with them, every time!!! Never a problem with Rutlands!!! It is so true "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR" Thank all !!! Bill Mason

 

The market speaks, 2Vi cars go for less than good QVs or Carbs. I was TRYING to give someone honest feedback. I'm glad you've not had a problem with yours in 27 years. I've had my QV for 4 months and I'm pleased so far given what I paid for it but I didnt get the BEST deal and I'm still troubleshooting the overheating issues. So, you like yours, I like mine, other than that, you're entitled to your opinion and I am to mine.

This is the end point I was trying to get to. If you're looking for a first time Ferrari, the 2Vi's are often skipped and can be a real bargain, but you may have the same valuation issues when you sell, just do your homework.

James in Denver

 

Drilling drain holes may solve the problem. I thought of drilling holes in the bottom of my doors myself but never did it... I have just kept my car clean and covered and basically spot clean it after driving it and when needed.... The first thing we did when repainting my car was to remove the rust out of the bottom of the doors and replaced with new metal as you can probably see in one of the pictures of my car on my profile. A solid color car like red or especially black is easy to do paint work on without repainting the whole car... Most cars (even if garaged 100% of the time) that have not been painted in a while will have bubbles on the bottom of the doors... There was a new member on here from somewhere in Europe a while back and he had just picked up his new 308 and he had posted a picture of him driving it through a mechanical carwash and like 10 308 owners on here gave him hell about it... You cannot wash a 308 the same way you would a Honda Accord... In fact, I would just spot clean it, dust it and keep it covered.....

 

The difference is your opinion on this issue has hardly any basis in fact. As you seemed to indicate yourself, 2V cars probably don't deserve this excessive oil burning reputation but it persists because people like you keep this rumor going when it is not deserved.

As for the overheating issues, welcome to 308 ownership. They all have overheating issues while sitting in traffic. If your car has overheating issues at full speed, then there may be another problem. One thing you can do to help the car overheating in stop and go traffic is to install more modern fans with shrouds...

 

Ed, this can go on all night...... as I mentioned:

I speak from not from "personal experience" but from what the market shows. Point is, regardless of the issues, good or bad, oil burning or low power, the 2Vi's are VIEWED by the MARKET (not me, please check all the sources, FAds, Ferrari Market Letter, etc) as not valued as high.

They may be great cars, and indeed the one I RODE in was, but they are not valued as highly. IF SOMEONE (ummm.... the person starting this thread) wants to buy one, they need to be informed. As I've said, they may be great, and not deserved of the reputation, but they have it none-the-less.

James in Denver

PS Please take this offline, if you wish to contact me directly, please email.

 

That's not Ted, that's Steve.

I have been doing business with Rutlands for the last decade. A++ everytime. I LOVE sorting thru the upstairs treasures at the annual picnic. It's like some kind of Ferrari junkyard heaven.