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Who has successfully used the “bread method” for removing the pilot bearing?

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  1. Jaymac

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    As the title states… I’ve only ever heard one person say they hear a horror story about someone damaging their Ferrari trying the bread method, but most others who swear by it.
    What’s the consensus on here, from those who have actually tried it?
     
  2. fatbillybob

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    Eat the bread use a puller.
     
  3. Pete Schweaty

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    Just out of curiosity, why would you not use the puller? They are like $50 and can be rented for free.
     
  4. Jaymac

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    No reason. Also asking “just out of curiosity “.
     
  5. JPCIII

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    What is the "bread method"?

    Jason
     
  6. bonehead

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    Pack the area behind the bearing with bread of choice, apply pressure through the input shaft side, removing bearing, eat resultant round bread bits (this is optional)
     
  7. JPCIII

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    Thanks, I've heard of pumping the bearing out with grease, but I've never heard of using bread, more viscous I suppose.

    Jason
     
  8. Rifledriver

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    Maybe less messy.
     
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  9. Rifledriver

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    For the amount of money saved by doing your own clutch you can afford proper tools.

    Id be more worried about changing the throw out bearing.
     
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  10. Jaymac

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    What are the pitfalls I can expect from the throw out bearing?
     
  11. Rifledriver

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    Special tools.
     
  12. Jaymac

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    Ah, yes. I have a local connection with an F430 owner who has the Hill Engineering tool for the throw out bearing pins that he’s offered to lend me when the time comes. He’s the one who brought up using the bread method on his F430. He’s been doing it on his cars across multiple makes and models for years, and swears by it; that brought me to ask the question on here.
     
  13. Rifledriver

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    Can you share your chassis number with us?
     
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  14. Jaymac

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    So you can warn people not to buy my car? ;):D
     
  15. RedNeck

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    Hill Engineering tools are extremely cheap and very high quality. Totally worth it for the headaches avoided.
     
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  16. Jaymac

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    Agreed. I bought their tools when I did my timing belt job. I anticipate doing many more of those than clutch jobs in my life.
    For the avoidance of doubt, I didn’t start this thread to establish the viability of “the bread method” vs a cheap, proven and readily available puller tool; it was merely an inquiry of pure curiosity, yet somehow, seems to have developed into a metric with which to measure one’s breadth of mechanical ability and competency? :rolleyes:
     
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  17. INTMD8

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    Removing a pilot bearing via hydraulics will work on anything with a blind crank bore. Bread, grease, tissue paper, gummy bears, no matter.

    Where you run into problems is when it's drilled through and plugged with no step in the bore. (so do you hydraulically remove the bearing or push the plug into the crankcase).
     
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  18. Jaymac

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    And do our cars have a blind crack bore?
     
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  20. Jaymac

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    Good to know. Again, pullers are probably more efficient. I was just purely curious.
     

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