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Which was the first "original" colour of Ferrari ?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by AndersJL, Jun 21, 2004.

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  1. AndersJL

    AndersJL Formula Junior

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    Can anyone tell me which was the first "original" colour of Ferrari when racing and on his production cars ?
    Some people claim it is YELLOW, and that this was the colour on Enzos first racing cars. If so, does anyone have any pictures, info, history, facts etc. ?
    I have never seen any pictures / photos of an early F. in YELLOW.

    ...and some say RED, but not the bright red we see today on most F. but a darker, more blood red.

    I would be happy if anyone out there could help me.

    Ciao,
    Anders
     
  2. Enzo

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    I might be wrong but I think it was green.
     
  3. Auraraptor

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    I thought it was almost a maroon deep red.
     
  4. MY355

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    It WAS yellow.
     
  5. ralessi

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    4 posts, 4 different colors, hmm...
     
  6. MY355

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    It WAS yellow.
    again.
     
  7. bill ving

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    Red was Italy's racing color in international motorsports, and the yellow in the Ferrari logo is the color of Modena, Enzo's home town. The yellow color in international racing was either Belgium or France (I forget)
     
  8. 4i2fly

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    It could have been the rosso barachetta same color as the 30's Alphas. Just a wild guess.
     
  9. PSk

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    Correction ... sigh:

    Alpha is a Greek number or a mathematically symbol ... ALFA is the car and an anacronym (sp?). The Romeo came later but before Enzo's time with the company.

    Pete's standing up for Alfa Romeo
     
  10. Auraraptor

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    Pete, I love how you do this when you post now. :)
     
  11. PSk

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    If you look at the 815 ... the first car built by Ferrari after Alfa Romeo it was a dark red. Technically not a Ferrari, but you asked for the first.

    All the Alfa Romeos that were raced by Scuderia Ferrari were the maroon deep red.

    The current abortion of red that we see on the Marlboro Ferrari Racing team cars has nothing to do with Ferrari the company but is simply the Marlboro red. I seriously wish for the day when Ferrari returns to the correct red.

    Since RED is the Italian racing colour I would be very surprised to see any of Ferraris first racing cars in any other colours ... infact ALL of his racing cars. The only reason I believe they ever raced in any other colour was due to protests or private ownership.

    Pete's guess
     
  12. Fastviper

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    are you sure I thought it was magenta, no, maybe lavender, but I could be wrong so dont quote me.

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  13. PSk

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    You must be well in touch with your femanine side ;) ... I'm a thick male who still thinks in basic colours.

    Pete's trying to be funny
     
  14. Auraraptor

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    I am not sure about that. Look at the old P4, its a similar orange red rather then maroon red. Was Ferrari Marlboro Ferrari then too?
     
  15. 4i2fly

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    O.K., a little nit picking, you know what I meant! α is the first letter in Greek alphabet, the symbol however is used widely in mathematical and physical equations.
     
  16. PSk

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    Marlboro sponsorship is relatively new to Ferrari so I would have to assume no. Are we sure we are not just seeing different shades of red due to photographs ... etc.

    The current F1 car colour is definitely part of the sponsorship deal ... and IMO this sucks as Ferrari never, ever changed their colour for sponsors before.

    Pete's pretty sure he is right ;)
     
  17. PSk

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    Ofcourse I did :), but as an owner of an Alfa Romeo it is amazing how many thousands of time you have to correct the spelling ... even in the car registration office.

    Pete's seen Alpha Romeo one time too many
     
  18. 4i2fly

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    The new F1 color is called rosso scuderia and it is more orange than the red when Alessi and Berger were driving for Ferrari at which time Marlboro was a sponsor. I beleive the new F1 color is what is standard on the 360CS.
    The maroon on those early alfas are called rosso barachetta and I hope they don't paint the F1 cars that color!
     
  19. SrfCity

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    Here's some more accurate info on the early red, green an yellow F's from a recent FML article on colors:

    "In the earliest days of racing the body governing international racing decreed that "the use of distinctive colors of nationality is compulsory when the supplementary regulations of the competition require it." They then set about assigning colors to every country involved. It just so happened, for reasons unknown, that Italy was assigned red.

    But this did not mean that all Ferraris being raced in international competition had to be painted red. The color used was supposed to be determined by the nationality of the entrant, not the nationality of the manufacturer. Therefore it was not unusual in the early days to see Ferraris being raced by non-Italians to be painted in their national color. For instance, Ecurie Francorchamps was well known for racing Ferraris painted in the Belgian national color yellow, and Englishman David Piper, among others, often campaigned Ferraris painted green.

    Along the way, though, the regulation fell into disuse and today Ferrari remains the only team in Formula One who strictly adheres to the old national color system although other teams do occasionally adopt colors that may resemble adherence to the old system . . . if it is compatible with their current sponsor’s color scheme."
     
  20. Tifoso1

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    Just for fun and reference:

    Red = Italy
    Yellow = Belgium
    Blue = France
    Green = GB
    Silver = Germany
    White = Japan
    Blue and White strips = USA (Not too sure about this one)

    If I am wrong on any of these, please feel free to correct them
     
  21. 4i2fly

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    I think Germany's color is white, I am not sure about Japan!
     
  22. PSk

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    You are right. If you look back at the early blower Benz (SSK's, etc.) they always raced in white. The silver colour (and silver arrow) colour came about when Mercedes returned to racing before WW2. I believe that when the cars were officially weighed they were every so slightly over weight and thus the paint was removed leaving the silver of the alloy body. This stuck and the Mercedes raced in silver from then on ... and now we all think of silver as Germans racing colours.

    Now this story could be a load of BS ;), but that is what I have been told.

    Pete's telling stories
     
  23. Auraraptor

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    It is true.
     
  24. Aureus

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    Thats the offical story from the Mercedes musuem in Stuttgart, at least according to their head-phone guided tour.
     
  25. PSk

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    To discuss the current colour of the F1 Ferraris again. Lets remember when the colour changed ... 1996 when Marlboro joined Ferrari and the teams name was changed to Team Ferrari Marlboro (or something).

    The previous (1995) car was the 412 T2 and was Ferrari Red. The new 1996 car was the F310 and was painted Marlboro red as SrfCity post states.

    I remember being very upset about this but most articles thought it was about time that Ferrari took up serious sponsorship like the other teams, and atleast Marlboro's main colour is red ... imagine if it was blue or something :(

    Thus now that Ferraris are painted in their sponsors colours what will happen when Marlboro leaves ... ?

    Pete's a little upset that yet another tradition has gone down the toilet
     

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