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Where to buy glycoshell & other Ferrari recommended fluids

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Tim1137, Feb 13, 2014.

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  1. Tim1137

    Tim1137 Formula Junior

    Aug 16, 2011
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    As with any car I buy, my first step in ownership is replacing all the fluids. The fluid replacement list for my new to me 360 includes engine oil, transmission oil, coolant, brake fluid, and clutch fluid. The problem is some of this stuff isn't exactly ready to buy at my local Auto Zone...

    Coolant - Ferrari says to use Glycoshell. I searched and it appears you cannot buy this anymore. Some people suggest using "any" blue coolant. Before I dump just any old fluid into my car, I'd like to get a little better of an answer than that.

    Engine oil - Ferrari says Shell Helix 5-40... I see tons of debate on whats best... I want to use what Ferrari calls for. This again is something it doesn't appear you can buy. Some people say that the Quaker State Q power is the same thing just re-bottled. How true is it? I always thought of Quaker State as a "cheaper" oil.

    Transmission fluid - I have a 6 spd. manual. What fluid does Ferrari call for? All I can find is 75-90 "semi" synthetic GL5 fluid. Is there a brand preference?

    Brake & clutch fluid - Any brake fluid will work? Should I use DOT 4 or DOT5.1? I was planning to use Motul DOT 5.1 because it is readily available at my work.


    Suggestions and recommendations??
     
  2. bdgs1

    bdgs1 Rookie

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    I was always under the impression that dot 4 racing brake fluids is a much better product than dot 5.1--and i'm sure you know this but an unopened container is an absolute must for brake fluid in my opinion--just way too easy to get contaminated once opened--as to gear oil and motor oil --you pay your money you take your chances--its like voting on who has the ugliest wife--never going to get a unbiased opinion
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 tazandjan, Feb 14, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2014
    Tim- The current US version of the Shell is Pennzoil Ultra 5W40, seen in late model Ferrari owners manuals. Any good full synthetic 5W40 will work, though. Any good anti-freeze for aluminum engines will work fine, I use Zerex G05 in mine. Any synthetic 75W90 transaxle oil works fine. Many love the Redline products and I use Valvoline synthetic 75W90. For power steering, any synthetic automatic transmission fluid meeting Dexron III or Dexron VI standards will work. I use Dexxron VI in mine. For brake fluid, most use a good synthetic DOT 4 fluid like ATE Blue or ATE Amber, the latter because the color does not bother DOT and Blue is getting hard to find. Motul makes very good brake fluids and they make a DOT 4 as well as 5.1. The 4 costs more than the 5.1, it appears. Both are synthetic.

    Recommendations on fluids are almost an invitation to a knife-fight. Search in the 360/F430 forum and this question has been asked many times before.

    http://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-550022576-6PK-Ultra-European-Synthetic/dp/B006A49KJC
     
  4. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    :D :p :) Love it!

    OP, I love Millers Racing Oils for what it's worth! I use Their CFS 10w60 NT because I use the car on track quite a bit but they have 5/40 and 10/50 also if you're looking for something for regular street use. These are upper-end lubricants and your Ferrari engine is deserving of the best IMO.

    Redline 75x90NS for the tranny is a very popular choice on this forum. Whether or not you add friction modifier to the mix etc opens up an entirely different debate though!

    I like Castrol SRF for the brake / clutch fluid. It's expensive but requires less frequent changes as it's wet boiling temperature is way higher than the others. It's probably not worth the investment if you're going to change it every single year and/or you're not using the car on track.

    Coolant, other fluids, as Taz says.
     
  5. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    I use redline 5w-40 in the engine redline 75w90 in the tranny, BMW blue coolant, and ATE blue or amber in the lines.. Whichever I can get at the time easier.
     
  6. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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    Nov 2, 2003
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    COOLANT: BMW BLUE
    GEAR OIL - ROYAL PURPLE MAX-GEAR
    ENGINE - LUBI-MOLY 5W40
    BRAKE - VALVOLINE SYNTHETIC DOT 3/4
    F-1 FLUID: EITHER MOBIL 1 SYNTHETIC DEXTRON 3 OR ENOS SYNTH. DEXTRON 3 (can get at NAPA store)

    Regards, Jim
     
  7. JCR

    JCR F1 World Champ
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    The blue BMW coolant is also known as G-48. Chemically it is very close to G-05 as used by Mercedes, Ford, etc.
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Both G-48 and G-05 are made by Valvoline. The big difference in the two, besides yellow/blue colors, is the G-48 has a salt instead of nitrites for erosion protection. G-05 uses nitrite as an inhibitor for cylinder liner cavitation erosion. The newer G-48 uses a different type of inhibitor and Mercedes has changed their coolant from G-05 to G-48.

    Long distance truckers are now moving to nitrite free G-48 because it does not require periodic testing to ensure adequate levels of nitrites for cavitation erosion protection, but they often go 600,000 miles or 6 years, whichever comes first, before changing coolant.

    For those of us who change coolant every 2-3 years, either G-05 or G-48 will work fine. BMW, however, specifies a phosphate and nitrite free coolant and that is G-48. Mainly because they and other manufacturers are claiming the coolant does not need to be changed, and nitrites do break down over a period of years.
     
  9. hakankuy

    hakankuy Karting

    Jun 15, 2010
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    I am currently using redline 75w90ns and i am very satisfied with it. But unfortunately amazon and other online sites stopped international shipping. Best option here is valvoline and motul. Valvoline px is 1/3 of motul. It seems very attractive but I couldn't decide which syn power 75w90 with or without LS sign?
    Any input appreciated
     
  10. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    Edit: switched the transmission fluid to Valvoline after the redline was giving me some creaking in reverse with a tight turn. Now shifts smooth as silk with Valvoline. Also like 1/4 the price!
     
  11. hakankuy

    hakankuy Karting

    Jun 15, 2010
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    Curt, which type of valvoline are you using? there are 5 different 75w90.
    I have already eliminated 3, and now i have 2 options durablend gl5 LS 75W90 (limited slip) and normal durablend gl5 75w90. Thanks.
     
  12. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Quaker State Q power 5W-40 is what the Ferrari dealer out here uses. Says it right on the invoice FYI.
     

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