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  1. Isobel

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    Not Fair, Chris !!!!!!!

    All I can think of is PLN......;(. Can’t separate the two. Kind of like Paul and ‘Hud’.
    Nah, just being a fussbudget ;) ;).
     
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  2. Whisky

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    Don't you recall going on family vacations halfway across the country in a 56, 60, 62 Chevy?
    With NO A/C?
    And an AM radio - IF lucky?
    I do, well, in 62 anyway... and again in 66.
     
  3. Isobel

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    #28 Isobel, Apr 15, 2020
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    Well good for you ;)

    Child of the ‘70’s here...;).

    A/C in Canada ? LOL, yup,..... they rolled down. Individually specific cooling ;).
    I never mentioned stock cars of the ‘60’s. Styling was much improved over the moribund 50’s. 64/65 Fords, 66-69 Chargers, 65-69 Sats and Coronets, 66-67 Fairlanes and Comets, 64 Mercs, Furys and Polaras, all very crisp. ;)
    And easy to determine the actual marque and year of car....even from a distance...
     
  4. Gatorrari

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    One aspect that's definitely been lost, especially since the move to a common template.
     
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  5. Whisky

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    I lived in central and SOCal, it was hot there.
     
  6. Isobel

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    Braggard ! ;).
     
  7. Whisky

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    55 years ago. Have ZERO desire to go back.
     
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  8. ;)
    S. Fla here. 'Too hot and humid. From NY 45 years ago and 'have ZERO desire to stay now that I'm retired.
    ('Only stayed in youth/beginning as there was plenty of racing opportunity 'year 'round :) (even Max Verstappen did some down here in early '14).....then commitments :(.....)
     
  9. Whisky

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    You need to get out of NY and get to a place more tax-friendly.
     
  10. TTR

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    Anyone here ever driven well sorted ‘55-‘56 Chrysler 300s spiritedly ?
    While I’ve never been into racing, I’ve driven (and restored) several and have experienced several other make & model contemporaries, I can see why they were successful.
    One of my all time favorite drives was in a ‘55 300, trying (successfully) to keep up with an ‘80s(?) BMW attempting to leave me “in the dust” going up the CA Hwy 18 from San Berdoo to Lake Arrowhead, although about 10 minutes after our spirited/twisty sprint, I was leisurely driving around the lake, when the right rear brake drum, along with the wheel & tire decided to work itself off from the axle shaft at the moment I’m going downhill at about 30-35 MPH...
     
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  11. Easy there cowboy......where'd that come from? :eek:

    Also, ZERO desire on my part to return to that hell-hole......(although upstate is perty, and L.I. used to be...) ;)
     
  12. Gatorrari

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    Long Island still is, east of the William Floyd Parkway.....

    (For the uninitiated, that's pretty far east.)
     
  13. Naaahhhh..........the "Bridge" is gone........ :( :( :(

    :)
     
  14. Gatorrari

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    Funny, I never made it out to Bridgehampton. The first track I ever made it to was Watkins Glen in 1975.
     
  15. My first time there was for the '69 Can Am with a couple of fellow slot car racing buddies and one's dad. My first drive in sanctioned competition was there in 2 meets in '77.

    Speaking of LI, came across this nifty read....Dan and I (me, 24 years later) were born in Port Jeff. 'Only met him and talked a few mins. once at Sebring, '76.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/dan-gurney-racing-hero-tribute/4780252/
     
  16. Gatorrari

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    So you got to see the "Bruce and Denny show" in person.
     
  17. Yup.....and the other biggies too....Chris, Jo, Pedro,John, and on......see my signature. :)
    Can-Am Bridgehampton 7.round
    Started: 20

    Race: 4,587 km * 70 laps = 321,064 km AVG: 183,019 km/h

    FL: Denny Hulme 5 McLaren M8B Chevrolet 1:26,640 191,4299 km/h

    Pos. NO Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/Retired Group Practice


    Classified:

    1. 5 Denny Hulme / NZ McLaren M8B Chevrolet McLaren 70 1:45:40,580 2. 1:24,940
    2. 4 Bruce McLaren / NZ McLaren M8B Chevrolet McLaren 70 1:45:41,000 1. 1:24,620
    3. 0 Jo Siffert / CH Porsche 917 PA 028 Porsche - Audi 70 1:46:41,000 7. 1:29,190
    4. 11 Lothar Motschenbacher / USA McLaren M12 Chevrolet 67 9. 1:29,980
    5. 12 Pedro Rodriguez / MEX Ferrari 312P Coupé 0870 North American Racing Team 66 11. 1:34,420
    6. 9 Tony Dean / GB Porsche 908-2 Spyder 014 66 12. 1:35,510
    7. 10 Chuck Parsons / USA Lola T163 Chevrolet 65 8. 1:29,240
    8. 28 Dick Brown / USA McLaren M6B Chevrolet 63 13. 1:36,960
    9. 77 Leonard Janke / USA McLaren M1C Chevrolet 62 17. 1:42,890
    10. 18 Kris Harrison McLaren M1C Chevrolet 62 16. 1:42,530
    11. 79 Tom Dutton / USA Lola T70 Mk.3B Chevrolet 61 14. 1:38,750
    12. 8 William Wonder / USA McLaren M1C Ford 60 15. 1:41,310
    13. 97 Ron Goldleaf / USA Lola T70 Chevrolet 57 19. 1:47,490

    Did not finish:

    14. 7 John Surtees / GB McLaren M12 Chevrolet Chaparral 56 blown engine 4. 1:26,530
    15. 98 George Eaton / CDN McLaren M12 Chevrolet 56 blown engine 6. 1:28,850
    16. 75 Bob Dini / USA Lola T162 Chevrolet 28 engine failure 10. 1:34,350
    17. 31 Peter Revson / USA Lola T163 Chevrolet 10 broken spindle 5. 1:28,650
    18. 16 Chris Amon / NZ Ferrari 612P 3 broken oil pum 3. 1:26,310
    19. 29 Jef Stevens / USA Lola T70 Chevrolet 2 blown engine 18. 1:43,310
    20. 24 Bob Nagel / USA Lola T70 Mk.3B Ford 2 water pump bel 20. 0:00,000
    ............and the T/A in '70; Mark, Parnelli, George, Jerry, Jim, Sam........

    .....'USAC Champ Cars ('66-'68) at Langhorne and Trenton (NASCAR in Jersey '72 too, iirc, Baker won)
    Indy 500 live closed circuit at RKO theatres '66 -'69 ('66 Jamaica; '67-9 White Plains). On the big screen, no commercials, was an AWESOME way to see it!!!
    A bunch o'crap at Freepoert and Islip (again, even NASCAR at Islip; Petty won....pace car's nose to tail end of field on pace lap :D)

    We're hi-jacking the thread....any more PM me. :)
     
  18. Gatorrari

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    If I read your results correctly, there was a full minute gap at the end between McLaren in 2nd and Siffert in 3rd? That's how dominant the McLarens were, especially that year, when they won every race. I remember that Gurney joined them for one race, hopped into the spare car and finished an easy 3rd to his two teammates!
     
  19. Gatorrari

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    In a case more closely related to the thread title, in around 1991 I was working in Seattle and attended what was called the Evergreen State Fair (it was really a county fair, definitely not the biggest fair in the state) in the town of Monroe, northeast of Seattle, and the fairgrounds were adjacent to the Evergreen Speedway, a 5/8 mile paved "bullring". They routinely held a (relatively) big-money NASCAR Northwest series race there in conjunction with the fair, and it was common for them to invite a star driver to compete. The year I was there, that star was Bill Elliott! But the locals showed him no respect (on the track, at least) and beat him soundly.
     
  20. 375+

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    Dan Gurney replaced Bruce Mclaren in the second car after his death and won at least one race. He also did a few F1 races before sponsor conflicts(Dan sponsored by Castrol, Mclaren by Gulf) forced him out. I think these were the last F1 races for Dan. He was replaced by Peter Gethin, the following season Revvie got the seat.
     
  21. Dan jumped in their backup car in' 69 at michigan, foregoing his own McLeagle ("Eaglised" M6B/Ford), starting last (didn't qualify) and finished third in their "photo" finish.

    Michigan Int'l Can-Am, Cambridge Junction, Brooklyn, Michigan Int'l S peedway 28.9.1969
    Can-Am Michigan 8.round
    Started: 27

    Race: 4,828 km * 65 laps AVG: 173,939 km/h

    FL: Denny Hulme 5 McLaren M8B Chevrolet 1:36,100 180,8613 km/h

    Pos. NO Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/Retired Group Practice


    Classified:

    1. 4 Bruce McLaren / NZ McLaren M8B Chevrolet McLaren 65 1:48:14,490 2. 1:32,900
    2. 5 Denny Hulme / NZ McLaren M8B Chevrolet McLaren 65 1:48:15,000 1. 1:32,500
    3. 1 Dan Gurney / USA McLaren M8B Chevrolet McLaren 65 1:48:15,200 27. 0:00,000
    4. 0 Jo Siffert / CH Porsche 917 PA 028 Porsche - Audi 64 3. 1:35,900
    5. 7 Andrea de Adamich / I McLaren M12 Chevrolet Chaparral 63 6. 1:38,200
    6. 10 Chuck Parsons / USA Lola T163 Chevrolet 63 7. 1:39,600
    7. 8 Tony Dean / GB Porsche 908-2 014 62 8. 1:42,000
    8. 98 George Eaton / CDN McLaren M12 Chevrolet Turbo 62 5. 1:37,200
    9. 51 Dave Causey / USA McLaren M6B Chevrolet 59 14. 1:47,000
    10. 99 David Hobbs / GB McLaren M6B Ford 59 12. 1:44,800

    In '70, he he ran the first three Can Ams for McL, winning Mosport and St Jovite, a lowly 9th ('don't know why) at WG. Peter Gethin took over the rest of the year.
     
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    nice video, thanks for posting[​IMG]
     

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