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What's the common pronunciation of "Jerez"?

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  1. Gilles27

    Gilles27 F1 World Champ

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    I've heard several:

    ghir-Ez
    yair-Ez
    hair-Ez
    hair-Eth
     
  2. Redline Drift

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    J is silent right?
     
  3. Gilles27

    Gilles27 F1 World Champ

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    Not sure--"H" is usually silent in the front of a word. Sometimes "J" is pronounced like a "Y".
     
  4. Remy Zero

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    Yerez...

    the J is pronounced as Y...
     
  5. Papa G

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    hə-ˈrās, hā-ˈreth, -ˈres
     
  6. ItaliaF1

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    Bob Varsha pronounced it "Hireth." It makes sense, as a 'J' in Spanish is usually pronounced as an 'H,' and a 'Z' or 'C' can be pronounced as 'TH' in the English language.
     
  7. jbanzai

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    Probaby the closest in English will be something like Her-eth. BTW the full name of the place is Jerez de la Frontera

    Hear it yourselfs at You Tube or Jerez II

    - Cheers
     
  8. YellowbirdRS

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    Je·rez· de la Fron·tera (he ret̸h′t̸he lä frō̂n te′rä)
     
  9. RP

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    Its pronounced "gee whiz".
     
  10. Tipo815

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  11. Isobel

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    And what makes you think you're such an expert.....
     
  12. 355

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    I believe that Brian is right.
     
  13. Isobel

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    For some reason, I gotta go with Julio in Madrid on this one......no offense Brian..
     
  14. Julio Batista

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    The other Fchat Julio is right of course. The J is a "throaty" H (similar to the arabic), while the Z is a long "th".

    Incidentally, it's a very fun track, wide and full of compound curves. It's also the high church of motorbike racing in Spain.

    Cheers,

    Another Julio in Madrid
     
  15. Remy Zero

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    None taken ;)

    well, in football, Juventus is pronounced as Yu-ventus...so, i think it applies too. i know the star sports commentators pronounces it as Yerez..
     
  16. IanMac

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    But Juventus is Italian and Herez Spanish. I'd listen to the Spanish guys! ;)
     
  17. Remy Zero

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    Spanish guys are known for conning people in football... :D :D...
     
  18. djh4570

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    I agree with the 2 Julio's (Hoo lee o) on the pronunciation thats always the way we said it in England and also i think its always down to the local folks to settle these debates and i would say they did that. Oh and i think you will find later in the year the F1 race comes from Bar tha lona although i will be happily corrected on that one.
     
  19. Julio Batista

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    Sigh... Where to start?

    1. Juventus is a football team in a country called Italy.

    2. In Italy the language spoken is Italian.

    3. Jerez de la Frontera (Jerez) is a city in a country called Spain.

    4. In Spain the language spoken is Spanish.

    5. Spanish and Italian are two different languages, although they have many similarities. Pronunciation is not one of them.

    6. The letter "J" DOES NOT EXIST IN ITALIAN. It is tolerated in words borrowed from other languages, and in some (very few) place names. It is pronounced EXACTLY as if it was an English "Y". Hence "Juventus" (a latin word), or "Mare Jonico". Italians who read my name call me "Yulio", whereas the "Julio" equivalent in Italian is "Giulio".

    7. In Spanish the letter "H" is ALWAYS SILENT.If you want an aspirated effect in Spanish, you use the letter "J", as in Julio, Jerez, Jamon, or the letter "G" (less frequently) as in "Gilipollas" or "Gilberto".

    8. The aspirated "J" is pronounced with a distinct guttural sound in Spain, but it softens considerably in Latin America. In Colombia they call me exactly "who-leeo", whereas in Spain it's more like an aspirated "Rwho-leeo"

    9. As a rule, star sports commentators have not taken the trouble to learn or expose themselves to foreign languages. I would not take them as reliable indicators of correct foreign pronunciations.

    I think points 1 to 9 clearly indicate that you are very seriously mistaken, but perhaps a French saying applies better here:

    "Il n'y a pas de pire sourd que celui qui ne veut pas entendre"

    Say thank you for the education. I think you need it :)
     
  20. Remy Zero

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    a bit harsh, don't u think so? i was just passing the msg, of how the Star Sports pronounced Jerez. i'm not saying, and i never said it was right, or i was right for that matter.

    Also, i was just comparing Juventus, nothing more. and of cos, i'm not that stupid, that i can't differentiate between Italy and Spanish.

    Have a nice day.
     
  21. Isobel

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    +1, Harsh indeed. A shame because points 6-8 were quite informative. The rest was rwhovenile....
     
  22. Julio Batista

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    If I had meant it literally it would indeed be harsh. I thought smilies avoided this kind of situation...

    I didn't take you seriously, so I presumed you wouldn't take me seriously either.

    Or do you really think Spaniards are dishonest, as you posted earlier? I thought you were joking.

    Have a nice day.
     
  23. Julio Batista

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    That is correct. There will also be an F1 race (for the first time!) in Val-en-theea.
     
  24. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    of cos i was joking. why would i simply say they're dishonest?
     
  25. Tad Cody

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    Take a guess...
    This is 100% correct, but it sounds better spoken by a native... I have family who have had an estate there for years, and this is how they pronounce it. They have extended an open invitation to stay with them during the GP. Have to take them up on it one of these years...

    -Tad
     

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